Hey Carole
Thanks for the encouragement, things
are doing pretty well. Improved technique (mainly, learning to tighten stomach
muscles at the catch), rowing at 10MPS, etc., made that a relatively easy
row--other efforts resulted in lots of soreness, pulled hamstrings (from using
the straps--don'tuse them any more), and thrown out lower back--got up today a
little sleepyish feeling but perfectly fine otherwise. I won't be working on
really speeding that up until I can row an HM and feel like I did
nothing.
What do you do for work? Sounds like some really long days going
on!
Carla
| QUOTE (seat5 @ Oct 5 2004, 09:23 AM) |
| Wow, you guys really are inspiring! ...
make me feel like I'm just messing around over here! Most of my best rows, like last night's HM, start at around 10:30 or 11:00 pm |
Hi Carla
I have to work very late or very early sometimes, so I have an idea how tiring that can be. So rowing a half marathon at 11.00pm is a little tough in my book. I'm not sure I could do that. To tell the truth I don't think I could row a half marathon at any time?
I think you're the inspiring one fitting in the mighty rows between your family and your music.
You play in an orchestra, right? Now that, to me, is cool!
. which
orchestra do you play in, if you don't mind me asking?Daren's PBing just for fun these days.
Bernard
| QUOTE (Prufrock @ Oct 5 2004, 01:59 PM) |
| Congratulations on your pb! The extra
metres are good too! Good luck
later. |
Thanks! It did me good. =)
After my cold 30 mins earlier, I decided to warm up a bit for my real attempt this afternoon.
I did 1.5k as a warm up, then hit the 30 min test. The result was a new 30min PB of 7,617m. All of my average splits (90 second segments) were under 2:00 pace. The last 90 seconds worked out at 1:47, so I had a strong finish and could probably have worked harder, earlier without totally blowing up. Finished off with a 2k cool down. That's another 11k or so in the Taffybank. \o/
Amazing stuff Daren!
You murdered your pb! I was going to say keep it up, but I don't think you need me to motivate you.
Bernard
You murdered your pb! I was going to say keep it up, but I don't think you need me to motivate you.
Bernard
| QUOTE (Daren C @ Oct 5 2004, 06:40 PM) |
| The result was a new 30min PB of 7,617m. |
Congratulations
, all
you need to do now is update your signature. And try again, this old man is
still 29 meters faster. 
I see you listed LP , what is that?
Aye, but you're 6' 2" old man! =) I'll have another go in
a couple of weeks.
"LP" in my signature stands for "Low Pull". Basically, warm yourself up and then pull 5 or 6 very hard strokes. The "Low Pull" is the lowest split time you can get the monitor to display. Most people put the damper on 10 to try this. It's a macho brute strength pissing contest, really. =)
"LP" in my signature stands for "Low Pull". Basically, warm yourself up and then pull 5 or 6 very hard strokes. The "Low Pull" is the lowest split time you can get the monitor to display. Most people put the damper on 10 to try this. It's a macho brute strength pissing contest, really. =)
Hi Bernard,
I play violin in 2 orchestras, study privately, and play "for fun only" in a quartet. One orchestra is a student orchestra, I only play in the advanced chamber group and often solo with them (I used to play with every level to help support them but it got to be a bit much) and their website is www.mvsostrings.org ; the other orchestra is a semi-professional community orchestra www.mvpomusic.org (I'm in the 'semi' part), and I'm a second violin with them. The quartet is just for fun, we meet once a week and sight read stuff, and me and the other violin switch off on the first or second part. I probably practice 3--4 hours a day, 5 or 6 days a week, just trying to survive.
Not bad, considering I took my instrument out of the dusty closet 8 years ago and played my first recital (along with all the little kids paying Twinkle Twinkle Little Star) when I was 36....
Usually I have to take it easy on the rowing for a few days before a performance because you don't want to be tight and sore or just fatigued, so it's kind of a juggling act. Playing the violin is a lot more physical than people think, but it's a different kind of physical, and one of the hardest things for me to learn was that you can't play it like you're rowing it or pedaling, you can't beat it into submisison, you have to release the music in it, let it out, draw it out. It's made for an interesting balance in my life, that's for sure!
That was probably more than you ever wanted to know about that!
Carla
I play violin in 2 orchestras, study privately, and play "for fun only" in a quartet. One orchestra is a student orchestra, I only play in the advanced chamber group and often solo with them (I used to play with every level to help support them but it got to be a bit much) and their website is www.mvsostrings.org ; the other orchestra is a semi-professional community orchestra www.mvpomusic.org (I'm in the 'semi' part), and I'm a second violin with them. The quartet is just for fun, we meet once a week and sight read stuff, and me and the other violin switch off on the first or second part. I probably practice 3--4 hours a day, 5 or 6 days a week, just trying to survive.
Not bad, considering I took my instrument out of the dusty closet 8 years ago and played my first recital (along with all the little kids paying Twinkle Twinkle Little Star) when I was 36....
Usually I have to take it easy on the rowing for a few days before a performance because you don't want to be tight and sore or just fatigued, so it's kind of a juggling act. Playing the violin is a lot more physical than people think, but it's a different kind of physical, and one of the hardest things for me to learn was that you can't play it like you're rowing it or pedaling, you can't beat it into submisison, you have to release the music in it, let it out, draw it out. It's made for an interesting balance in my life, that's for sure!
That was probably more than you ever wanted to know about that!
Carla
Not at all Carla
When I was a small boy, my mum smacked me around until I agreed to learn the piano
. We had
an old badly tuned one in the sitting room. I played it for a year, even though
I preferred pop and soul to endless Bach minuets and fingering exercises. 
Luckily soccer, we say football in England, saved me. When I was older I took some grades for something to do and appreciated it a bit more, though I still prefer Billy Joel and Stevie Wonder (my age!) to Bach and Beethoven, good players though they are. Still preferred football to the circle of fifths and squash became an obsession, and of course the opposite sex, but what the heck...
I think I can respect the kind of talent and dedication that goes into learning an instrument, especially for someone who's older. It takes a lot of bottle (Englandese for courage and confidence) to go back to school and "play with the kiddies").
Does being a fit rower help you with your music?
I apologise beforehand if you don't want to talk about this stuff!! It's an interesting diversion for me and takes my mind off what I'm going to do to my body on the rower now. It'll thank me when it's older... Where have I heard that before...?
Bernard
When I was a small boy, my mum smacked me around until I agreed to learn the piano
. We had
an old badly tuned one in the sitting room. I played it for a year, even though
I preferred pop and soul to endless Bach minuets and fingering exercises.
Luckily soccer, we say football in England, saved me. When I was older I took some grades for something to do and appreciated it a bit more, though I still prefer Billy Joel and Stevie Wonder (my age!) to Bach and Beethoven, good players though they are. Still preferred football to the circle of fifths and squash became an obsession, and of course the opposite sex, but what the heck...
I think I can respect the kind of talent and dedication that goes into learning an instrument, especially for someone who's older. It takes a lot of bottle (Englandese for courage and confidence) to go back to school and "play with the kiddies").
Does being a fit rower help you with your music?
I apologise beforehand if you don't want to talk about this stuff!! It's an interesting diversion for me and takes my mind off what I'm going to do to my body on the rower now. It'll thank me when it's older... Where have I heard that before...?
Bernard
Hi Carla .... erm am dont run off I am an officer of the
law .... 25yrs in the job now English Bobby .... although I am a little more
sedate these days(too old for rolling round the floor with the drunks on a
Saturday night) I still work shifts and work in the radio and telephone room in
our Divisonal Control Room ... (The Bitch on the Switch 
)...... If
you look at my piccy on website .... me in my role ... Colin the cushion is a
charity thing we started sending him round the country for charity...wish I had
kept him to sit on on long rows.
Managed to do some short sessions in my break this week . Back to the hour rows tomorrow two days rest off work yipeee... will try and do them at 20spm and see how we go.
Lp ...low pull ... I did a 1.27 in the relay at Newark ....
)...... If
you look at my piccy on website .... me in my role ... Colin the cushion is a
charity thing we started sending him round the country for charity...wish I had
kept him to sit on on long rows. Managed to do some short sessions in my break this week . Back to the hour rows tomorrow two days rest off work yipeee... will try and do them at 20spm and see how we go.
Lp ...low pull ... I did a 1.27 in the relay at Newark ....
| QUOTE (Daren C @ Oct 5 2004, 10:45 AM) |
| Sadly, I'm going to have to leave Taff
Attack.* The reason is that I can no longer find Wales on a map!  *only kidding! |
Too bad the Eurocrats can't find Wales anymore.
But : has anyone noticed we are the "most Replies" and "most Views" topic?
So there are people that like Wales.
| QUOTE |
| erm am dont run off I am an officer of the law .... 25yrs in the job now English Bobby |
QUICK...............LEG IT.............IT'S THE ROZZERS!!!!!!!!
I had a wasted childhood in Sleepy Aberdare, (Mid Glamorgan, South Wales)
If anybody has any questions they think Chippy should answer in his return interview, pass them on to me at chrisadams71@msn.com. All welcome.
Cheers all
Wrestles Bore Da to the ground and handcuffs him
.....oops he is use to this ... !!!!!!
Great news from Pete at Digital Rowing. Despite
everything, he has managed to get a release date for Rowpro 1.7 of October
11th.
For any Taffs who are unaware of what Rowpro 1.7 offers, its internet racing/training for the PM3 (also supports PM2+). I will be buying, and I know chippy wont be able to live without it for long. Hopefully some of the rest of us who are lucky enough to have our own ergs will see this as a good investment. For those who dont own a C2 maybe this will bring you closer to the decision!
Risca Regattas will never be the same again!!!
For any Taffs who are unaware of what Rowpro 1.7 offers, its internet racing/training for the PM3 (also supports PM2+). I will be buying, and I know chippy wont be able to live without it for long. Hopefully some of the rest of us who are lucky enough to have our own ergs will see this as a good investment. For those who dont own a C2 maybe this will bring you closer to the decision!
Risca Regattas will never be the same again!!!
| QUOTE (Bore Da! @ Oct 5 2004, 10:30 PM) |
| Great news from Pete at Digital Rowing. Despite everything, he has managed to get a release date for Rowpro 1.7 of October 11th. |
That is just a week from today. Hope he knows what he is doing. Has anybody done any beta-testing?
| QUOTE (AussieTaff @ Oct 4 2004, 06:44 PM) |
Thanks for that GREAT post giving us all an insight into what make the "Man of Steel" tick. Perhaps we should also add that Chris is the only Taffer to have done all 10 Nonathlon events (though Godfried may now have joined him ?) and is in the top 50. And along with his hero Speedy, to go sub 6:50 for the 2K. What a guy
How about another post, this time Chris on Chippy ? How's the sub 7:00 2K assault going (or are you holding off until BIRC) ? Cheers Martin  |
[QUOTE]
Martin
I had my ok for the BIRC a few weeks ago and i will be giving it everything on the day.But i have a date with Old Smokey(Chris's ergo) first so 7 mins might go then if i feel good.
Just signed up for Nonathlon and jumped in at 62 a few places in front of you,could be another battle on my hands.
Chris is now using ERow,so every day he phones me up to tell me the training plan,and i do the same...That means the gap i have on him in our million meter challenge should stay the same,BUT ITS GETTING SMALLER.Think its about time i had a valley boy chat with him
Chippy.
PS Whats happenig big G
| QUOTE (Bayko @ Oct 5 2004, 10:20 AM) |
I had much the same attitude approaching my
first. At the time I had never gone more than 60:00 at a time (sore
bum), and when I determined to do a marathon "no matter what" I started by
making Sunday my "long row" day with the goal of adding 10% to my longest
every Sunday until reaching a full marathon. In reality, once I hit
2:00:00 I decided to make the leap a week later, and did so
successfully. From what I remember about marathon training for
running, the 2 hour workout gives about the optimum capillary and
mitochondria development. I think that it's worth stretching out
those half-marathons to 2 hours if at all possibe. 
As to doing sub 2:50:00, when I broke through that I was also doing just under 1:23:00 for the half-marathon, 15,425m for 60:00 and 38:15 for 10km. My pace differential between the full and half was 2.4sec/500m. I'm more of an endurance guy, so that's probably a smaller differential than the average. Ranger's Double the D add 3sec/500m, and Paul Smith's Double the D add 5 sec/500m are probably more realistic. Good luck with it. It gives a nice sense of accomplishment. Rick |
Thanks once again Rick,
That post is PURE GOLD ! Just what I needed and fits like a glove. You're not my long-lost twin cousin (Robert Morris-Jones) perchance ?! I too find the endurance events come more naturally, although I've only experienced running for 2-3 hrs to any degree.
Interesting to compare the two. On the one hand Erging seems a bit easier if I stay in my 'comfort zone', mainly because I'm sitting down. But as soon as I move out of the comfort zone for an extended period it becomes noticeably harder than jogging the equivalent distance. Could be the 'seamless' nature of the runnng action whereby one can slip into what seems like an effortless rhythm, whereas the rowing stroke consists of a series of VERY different parts (changing direction 180 degrees twice for one !).
Enough rambling - thanks for the encouragement, we'll see what I'm made of soon !
Happy erging,
Martin
| QUOTE (CAROLE MAC @ Oct 5 2004, 01:52 PM) |
| If you look at my piccy on website .... me
in my role ... Lp ...low pull ... I did a 1.27 in the relay at Newark .... |
I've been wondering where I'd seen that uniform before Carole - Salvation Army, District Nurse (Gladys Emmanuel), "Thin Blue Line" (Patricia) ? Now I know - it's "The Bill" !!!
Chippy (see post above ) has an issue concerning some alleged 'missing Kms', can you help ? Clues - We know the likely perpetrator came from Aberdare with a dodgy track record and recently revealed all in a frank, no-holds-barred interview.
Good luck with your HM when you do it - our Carla has set a testing time for you to emulate
Martin
PS Wots going on here - my LP is > 1.30 !!!
| QUOTE (AussieTaff @ Oct 4 2004, 12:40 AM) |
| Time for an update on the Non(T)athlon
list. I've taken the liberty of showing how many events each of us has
done (in brackets) and also some scores where people's posts had shown
them. Hope no-one minds :- BigD (9) ..................... Speedy/Dwayne Dirtychris71 (10) ........ Bore Da/Chris Godfried (9) ............... Godfried - 7672 Robcantrow (9) .......... Robert Parry - 7474 Aussietaff (8) .............. Martin - 7417 LLAMATRON (9) ........... Daren -7377 Seat5 (6) .................... Carla - 5565 Niall (4) ....................... Niall - 3147 Prufrock (1) ................. Bernie |
Now that Chippy has signed up thought I would update the list (wish I knew how to 'cut and paste' !).
BigD (9) ......................... Speedy/Dwayne
Godfried (10) ................. Godfried ------------ 7784
DirtyChris71 (10) ........... Bore Da/Chris ----- 7781
Chippy (9) ..................... Robert Redmond -- 7530
Robcantrow (9) .............. Robert Parry ------ 7474
Aussietaff (8) ................. Martin -------------- 7417
LLAMATRON (9) .............. Daren -------------- 7399
Seat5 (7) ....................... Carla --------------- 6543
Niall (4) ......................... Niall ----------------- 3147
Prufrock (1) ................... Bernard
HIGHLIGHTS :-
Godfried
moves into top 50 with a FM monster. Chippy
tucks in nicely behind his old mate. Not
content with 1 PB a day, Daren piles on the points with 2 !!! Carla
surges into the top 100 with a monstrous HM (978 pts worth
!)LOWLIGHTS :-
Bore Da gets
bumped out of top 50 !!!!Happy erging all,
Martin
I'm missing something!
What's this about this interview? Is Chippy being haunted by the paparazzi? What happened? What are you all talking about? I will have to search the rest of the forum.
Godfried--when did you do your marathon! Today? That is so cool. I didn't see that here, you must have posted OTA (off Taff Attack) maybe in the PB thread? 3:10 is awesome--that's only a few minutes slower than me doing 2 HMs at the same pace I do one--which can't happen--wow.
Carole, now when I am trying for a PB I'll be imagining you rowing after me in your uniform blowing a whistle! Should result in faster times.
When I was a kid, my dad used to go around singing this funny song that I can only remember snatches of, something like "Bobbies on bicycles, two by two" and has a chorus "Don't put knives in babbies' heads, down by the river Salia" or some such oddity. I can't believe I actually know (well, sort of) an actual Bobby!
My C2 only has PM2 so I can't do RowPro.... is it really fun? Do you have to have a computer right there, or does it work on the rower monitor, or what?
Martin, I am afraid to look and see how far behind I am. I thought I'd better take a day off after the HM and if I look I will row and be sorry... We are going away this weekend, Friday through Monday, so I won't be rowing then. But you are running this weekend so maybe you won't get too far ahead.
Carla
What's this about this interview? Is Chippy being haunted by the paparazzi? What happened? What are you all talking about? I will have to search the rest of the forum.
Godfried--when did you do your marathon! Today? That is so cool. I didn't see that here, you must have posted OTA (off Taff Attack) maybe in the PB thread? 3:10 is awesome--that's only a few minutes slower than me doing 2 HMs at the same pace I do one--which can't happen--wow.
Carole, now when I am trying for a PB I'll be imagining you rowing after me in your uniform blowing a whistle! Should result in faster times.
When I was a kid, my dad used to go around singing this funny song that I can only remember snatches of, something like "Bobbies on bicycles, two by two" and has a chorus "Don't put knives in babbies' heads, down by the river Salia" or some such oddity. I can't believe I actually know (well, sort of) an actual Bobby!
My C2 only has PM2 so I can't do RowPro.... is it really fun? Do you have to have a computer right there, or does it work on the rower monitor, or what?
Martin, I am afraid to look and see how far behind I am. I thought I'd better take a day off after the HM and if I look I will row and be sorry... We are going away this weekend, Friday through Monday, so I won't be rowing then. But you are running this weekend so maybe you won't get too far ahead.
Carla
Hi Carla,
Godfried did his Marathon and achieved his first Million Metres jointly the other day . Pretty
low key post to say the least - didn't jump up and down and 'bang' on about it
as I tend to do ! Talk about hiding one's light under a bushel, think I will
christen him 'Bushel Taff' Guess he lets his Erg do the talking - great achievement
wasn't it.
Think my post to Carole had one of those 'oops' in it - I've just looked at the rankings to see if you were close to top for the HM only to see Carole out there on her lonesome on sub 1:30
Thank goodness you are having a few days off too this weekend, now I don't have to crawl into the gym on Monday to grind out K's at 2.40 pace to keep you in sight !
About that song - something about 'London swings like a pendulum do' rings a bell !
Martin
Hi to Speedy if you are near a computer and tuning in.
Godfried did his Marathon and achieved his first Million Metres jointly the other day
. Pretty
low key post to say the least - didn't jump up and down and 'bang' on about it
as I tend to do ! Talk about hiding one's light under a bushel, think I will
christen him 'Bushel Taff' Guess he lets his Erg do the talking - great achievement
wasn't it.Think my post to Carole had one of those 'oops' in it - I've just looked at the rankings to see if you were close to top for the HM only to see Carole out there on her lonesome on sub 1:30
Thank goodness you are having a few days off too this weekend, now I don't have to crawl into the gym on Monday to grind out K's at 2.40 pace to keep you in sight !
About that song - something about 'London swings like a pendulum do' rings a bell !
Martin
Hi to Speedy if you are near a computer and tuning in.
| QUOTE (chippy @ Oct 5 2004, 04:37 PM) |
| Martin I had my ok for the BIRC a few weeks ago and i will be giving it everything on the day.But i have a date with Old Smokey(Chris's ergo) first so 7 mins might go then if i feel good.
Just signed up for Nonathlon and jumped in at 62 a few places in front of you,could be another battle on my hands.
Chippy. |
Enjoy those few places Chippy, I've got an Ace up my sleeve (30 mins) !!!!
Go for it on 'Old Smokey', just the name alone is worth 5 secs !
Martin
| QUOTE (chippy @ Oct 5 2004, 11:37 PM) |
| PS Whats happening big G |
Speedy is getting married.
| QUOTE (AussieTaff @ Oct 6 2004, 06:26 AM) |
| Godfried did his Marathon and achieved his
first Million Metres jointly the other day .
Pretty low key post to say the least - didn't jump up and down and 'bang'
on about it as I tend to do ! Talk about hiding one's light under a
bushel, think I will christen him 'Bushel Taff' Guess
he lets his Erg do the talking - great achievement wasn't it. |
| QUOTE (Godfried) |
| 4 oktober : marathon & million meter day! |
Aha! I missed that. Well done, Godfried! Great stuff. Not just the million, but even more the marathon. I haven't been able to face that yet, although I've done two or three half marathons. Damn, now that means I have to try my first marathon within the first million too!
Hmm... Nah!
Carla have a good weekend away ... I am sure that you
will come back even stronger after a rest ... oh and I actually do have a
whistle.. was one of the last ones to be issued with one back in the dark and
distant past .. 1979!!!!!! was a Police cadet and joined at 16....I know .. I
don't look a day over ..... 50 lol ..![user posted image]()
Aussie feel more like Gladys Emmanuel though these days .. what is it they say when bobbies start looking younger you are getting old .....
Had a good natter with Godfried in the chat room last night you lot should use that ... you could have a good laugh .
Aussie feel more like Gladys Emmanuel though these days .. what is it they say when bobbies start looking younger you are getting old .....
Had a good natter with Godfried in the chat room last night you lot should use that ... you could have a good laugh .
| QUOTE (Godfried @ Oct 6 2004, 03:30 AM) |
| 4 oktober : marathon &
million meter day! This better, Martin? As a result of all my rowing my light is coming out from under my bushel ( as in "The Nutty Professor - click" ) I think you ment another light. |
Thats more like it Godfried.
As 'Bushel' Taff is no longer appropriate you shall now be known henceforth as "Nutty Professor" Taff.
Sorry Daren, Godfried has read the iron-clad fine print in the all-binding Contract when joining up with TA and did his FM (almost) within the first Million Metres - over to you, there's no escaping it (plus you are READY fo it) !!!!
Martin
The main problem, Martin, is that I won't have time to do
a full marathon before I break the first million. I have 67471m left to row, but
today, Thursday and Friday are work days so I can't find the 3-4 hours needed. I
plan on passing 1 million on Friday (another 21k today, 28k tomorrow leaving me
with a mere 18471 to do on Friday), but my first opportunity to do a full
marathon will be Saturday, maybe Sunday. I might do one in celebration instead.
=)
Besides, I've never done 42km in one day, let alone one sitting.
Besides, I've never done 42km in one day, let alone one sitting.
Hi
Did my 12k last night. Just did a quick interval/sprint session- about 5000 metres in all. I've hurt my back a little, but I think that's down to bad technique. I'll have to start doing PaulS's strapless stuff soon to stop the twinges.
Well rowed Godfried and congratulations on the million metres. Good luck with your rows to get to a million metres Daren.
Bernard
Did my 12k last night. Just did a quick interval/sprint session- about 5000 metres in all. I've hurt my back a little, but I think that's down to bad technique. I'll have to start doing PaulS's strapless stuff soon to stop the twinges.
Well rowed Godfried and congratulations on the million metres. Good luck with your rows to get to a million metres Daren.
Bernard
Another 10k in the Taffybank, and a new PB time for the
distance to boot.
My last 10k was done on Sept 17th in a time of 42:35.9 (2:07.8). Splits about 2:09, power output was about 165W and a 29/30 stroke rate.
The one I just did was 40:29.5 (2:01.5) which is a new PB by about 2 minutes.
As far as the online rankings go, it's still 57% of the way down for my age range and build. In fact, all my longer distances are well down (60mins 63%, HM 58%). The shorter distances are in the 40-50% range mostly, so I guess I'm just built more for shorter distances.
My last 10k was done on Sept 17th in a time of 42:35.9 (2:07.8). Splits about 2:09, power output was about 165W and a 29/30 stroke rate.
The one I just did was 40:29.5 (2:01.5) which is a new PB by about 2 minutes.
As far as the online rankings go, it's still 57% of the way down for my age range and build. In fact, all my longer distances are well down (60mins 63%, HM 58%). The shorter distances are in the 40-50% range mostly, so I guess I'm just built more for shorter distances.
Congrats to all you October 4 marathoners out there. It
was nice of you to pick my birthday as your marathon day. I am suitably
impressed with an under 3 hours 10 minutes time, as it takes me at least another
half hour to do one.
I have about 100,000 meters to go to reach my 2nd million.
How did you handle the 'stopping to drink' problem?
Grams 3 hours 43 mins marathon age 62 since Monday, 133 pounds lightweight 5'3" tall
I have about 100,000 meters to go to reach my 2nd million.
How did you handle the 'stopping to drink' problem?
Grams 3 hours 43 mins marathon age 62 since Monday, 133 pounds lightweight 5'3" tall
| QUOTE (grams @ Oct 6 2004, 10:12 PM) |
| How did you handle the 'stopping to drink' problem? |
As you can see click , I planned 16 x 2500m + 1 x 2195m interval at a pace of 2:12.2 with a 2 min break after 10 , 20 , 30 k.
That plan gave me an average pace/500m ( at each 2500m ! ) :
2:12.2 2:12.2 2:12.2 2:12.2 10k 2:18.2 after break
2:17.5 2:17.0 2:16.6 2:16.2 20k 2:18.2 after break
2:17.7 2:17.3 2:16.7 2:16.5 30k 2:18.2 after break
2:17.7 2:17.3 2:17.0 2:16.7 40k 2:16.5 42,195 time total 3:11:56.4
So I knew what was going to happen , and could anticipate it.
I went faster, and ended in 3:09:15.3 average 2:14.6/500m.
Hey Grams, Nice to hear from you on this
thread.
Godfried's was a great effort wasn't it. But so was yours, a sub 3:45 marathon in one's 60's - only hope I can do that when my time comes to be in the 60 - 69 bracket. I haven't even done one yet so you are way ahead of me !
As for drinks - Rick Bayko has some good advice on 'drinking on the run' in an earlier post in this thread.
Happy (belated) Birthday wishes,
Martin
Godfried's was a great effort wasn't it. But so was yours, a sub 3:45 marathon in one's 60's - only hope I can do that when my time comes to be in the 60 - 69 bracket. I haven't even done one yet so you are way ahead of me !
As for drinks - Rick Bayko has some good advice on 'drinking on the run' in an earlier post in this thread.
Happy (belated) Birthday wishes,
Martin
Great marathon row, Godfried! I had seen your post, but
didn't realize that was a link, so it kind of left me scratching my head....I
like the
LOUD CAPITOL LETTER POSTS
when someone does something great so I don't miss it!!!!
Someone dig up an image of a trumpet we can use as an icon whenever we have especially great achievements to boast about!!
Carla
LOUD CAPITOL LETTER POSTS
when someone does something great so I don't miss it!!!!
Someone dig up an image of a trumpet we can use as an icon whenever we have especially great achievements to boast about!!
Carla
Isn't anyone going to tell me about Chippy's
interview???
Carla
Carla
| QUOTE (Daren C @ Oct 6 2004, 12:17 PM) |
| My last 10k was done on Sept 17th in a time
of 42:35.9 (2:07.8). Splits about 2:09, power output was about 165W and a
29/30 stroke rate. The one I just did was 40:29.5 (2:01.5) which is a new PB by about 2 minutes. |
Hi Daren,
Fantastic PB. Shows the value of the massive amount of Kms you have been doing since starting 2 months ago. Sub 40 just around the corner at this rate !
Just watch out for possibility of injuries now that you are getting the Ave Pace down towards the 2:00 mark for your long distance PB's, having a few more rest days doesn't hurt. You've earned it, doing 1 Million metres in under 2 months !!!
Sorry Chippy, checked the Nonathlon rankings to see how Daren went only to find I'd been elbowed aside by LLAMATRON too
Time to play
my 'Ace', a 30 min effort at the gym. Mission accomplished, 8040 metres. Dying
badly with 11 mins to go trying to hold the pace (1:52) when a gorgeous bare
midriff squirted me with her water bottle (can I read
anything into that ladies ?). Next I recall it was only 7 mins to go and I was
out of the 'danger' zone. Time for some Nonathlon 'daylight' between us !!!!
Cheers
Martin
| QUOTE (Bore Da! @ Oct 5 2004, 03:02 PM) |
| If anybody has any questions they think
Chippy should answer in his return interview, pass them on to me at
chrisadams71@msn.com. All welcome. Cheers all |
Hi Carla,
Towards the bottom of page 35 - Chippy interviews Founding Father Chris.
Bottom of Page 35 - Martin suggests a 'reverse' interview (as Chippy was also a FF).
Page 38 (Quote above) - Chris seeks input.
Bottom of Page 39 - Carla caught out not paying attention in class
. Instead chatting away at back of class with Carole Mac about erging, boys etc !
(Old Stuffy Professor) Martin
Martin,
Thanks for filling me in. Somehow I missed the entire end of page 35.
Also, I can't do math for beans. It's totally amazing to me that with my complete lack of competence (I'm NOT being sarcastic) I managed to homeschool my 3 kids through Algebra II. I taught the two boys Alg I, which I had to learn with them because I didn't know it, and then had to learn it all over again with my daughter 2 years later. The boys went on to finish College Algebra & Trig and Calc I, II, III and Differential Equations before they graduated high school. And I still can't stinking add, subtract, multiply and divide correctly!!!
OK TIME FOR THE BIG WRITING
10k PB 41:40 avg 205.0 spm 23
I set out to just match my last 10k, but I felt too good for that and decided to aim instead for 2:05. At 1K to go I was at 2:05.2 so I poured it on. It felt great except that I messed up and thought I was done but it read 98 m to go, don't know how I did that and had to start again. I was really proud of this row:
I am too lazy to figure out my MPS but I'm guessing close to 11 because most of the time I was pulling each time on one number lower, if you know what I mean.
206.8 23
205.7 23
205.0 23
205.5 22
204.9 23
205.5 22
206.2 22
205.4 22
205.3 22
204.9 22
205.2 22
205.7 22
205.3 23
206.0 22
205.1 23
205.2 23
205.3 23
205.2 23
203.8 24
158.3 26
YIPPEEEE!!!
Carla
Thanks for filling me in. Somehow I missed the entire end of page 35.
Also, I can't do math for beans. It's totally amazing to me that with my complete lack of competence (I'm NOT being sarcastic) I managed to homeschool my 3 kids through Algebra II. I taught the two boys Alg I, which I had to learn with them because I didn't know it, and then had to learn it all over again with my daughter 2 years later. The boys went on to finish College Algebra & Trig and Calc I, II, III and Differential Equations before they graduated high school. And I still can't stinking add, subtract, multiply and divide correctly!!!
OK TIME FOR THE BIG WRITING
10k PB 41:40 avg 205.0 spm 23
I set out to just match my last 10k, but I felt too good for that and decided to aim instead for 2:05. At 1K to go I was at 2:05.2 so I poured it on. It felt great except that I messed up and thought I was done but it read 98 m to go, don't know how I did that and had to start again. I was really proud of this row:
I am too lazy to figure out my MPS but I'm guessing close to 11 because most of the time I was pulling each time on one number lower, if you know what I mean.
206.8 23
205.7 23
205.0 23
205.5 22
204.9 23
205.5 22
206.2 22
205.4 22
205.3 22
204.9 22
205.2 22
205.7 22
205.3 23
206.0 22
205.1 23
205.2 23
205.3 23
205.2 23
203.8 24
158.3 26
YIPPEEEE!!!
Carla
Carla that's brilliant
are we twins that's exactly what my 10k is ......... lol.
I am crap at maths too ... (can I say crap).....
Oh and Carla what do you think Aussie prof would look like in an all in one ....weg Carole....
I am crap at maths too ... (can I say crap).....
Oh and Carla what do you think Aussie prof would look like in an all in one ....weg Carole....
Carla, that's fantastic. Well done!
Such a low stroke rate, too. I find I really struggle to work at a low rate. It seems far too tiring. I'm much more confortable bouncing along at 32 SPM or so, but I dare say it's not a good idea for my knees.
Such a low stroke rate, too. I find I really struggle to work at a low rate. It seems far too tiring. I'm much more confortable bouncing along at 32 SPM or so, but I dare say it's not a good idea for my knees.
Hi
Fantastic row Carla! Great effort Godfried! Daren, it seems every time you sit down to row, you do a personal best. Congratulations on your million miles. Excellent stuff!
Carla, you can't be that bad at Maths if you home taught your kids through algebra. I'm supposed to be quite a competent mathematician - I did my degree in Computer Science - and I found algebra very difficult when I first learnt it, so you can't have done such a bad job with the old maths. I make horrible mistakes with simple calculations, even now.
Fantastic row Carla! Great effort Godfried! Daren, it seems every time you sit down to row, you do a personal best. Congratulations on your million miles. Excellent stuff!
Carla, you can't be that bad at Maths if you home taught your kids through algebra. I'm supposed to be quite a competent mathematician - I did my degree in Computer Science - and I found algebra very difficult when I first learnt it, so you can't have done such a bad job with the old maths. I make horrible mistakes with simple calculations, even now.
| QUOTE |
when a gorgeous bare midriff squirted me with her water bottle (can I read anything into that ladies ?) |
Martin, you are too smooth for words!
Did 20x30secs at 1'38" with 30 (36spm) secs between each interval last night.
Hopefully will do 10k tonight, consisting of 5x1500 at around 1'50" (30-32spm) and a 2k warmup and a 500m warm down.
Bernard
Hey Carole--
Yup, we're twins! sort of...I think I have a height and probably a weight advantage over you. Felt great last night when I finished it (12:45 am) but this morning I'm really sleepy and sluggish. Can't think why. hmmm
I suppose you are now going to up the ante! It doesn't bear thinking about right now. I feel about as ambitious as a bowl of cold oatmeal.
Carla
PS what's "weg" and "all in one", is that long underwear?
Yup, we're twins! sort of...I think I have a height and probably a weight advantage over you. Felt great last night when I finished it (12:45 am) but this morning I'm really sleepy and sluggish. Can't think why. hmmm
I suppose you are now going to up the ante! It doesn't bear thinking about right now. I feel about as ambitious as a bowl of cold oatmeal.
Carla
PS what's "weg" and "all in one", is that long underwear?
Hi Daren,
Once I get rowing smoothly on the longer distances (I really stink at the short ones) I'm much more comfortable with a long stroke than a high stroke rate. It's so relaxing, well, I mean, it's calmer and more controlled, and just feels powerful and good. The trick will be to be able to maintain the MPS at faster paces, which of course dictates a faster stroke rate. It will be a while before I work my way up to that.
It's kind of a throwback to my old style of biking, which was to almost never shift out of 10th gear. I had this bike (still ride it, but it's fixed now) that would seem to always shift back into 10th when I was going up hill so I got disgusted and just left it in 10th for a few years. That got me on the crew team in the first place--a friend of mine was a rower and after our first bike ride together, (on which I coasted up hills behind her,) she convinced me to go out for crew. Since then I've improved my biking technique and I'm a lot faster, but I think the early accidental resistance training in high school sort of stuck with me.
You are already doing super well for having just started rowing such a short time ago. I would work on increasing the strength of each drive a la Paul Smith's advice, and rowing strapless, if you are using the straps now.
Carla
Once I get rowing smoothly on the longer distances (I really stink at the short ones) I'm much more comfortable with a long stroke than a high stroke rate. It's so relaxing, well, I mean, it's calmer and more controlled, and just feels powerful and good. The trick will be to be able to maintain the MPS at faster paces, which of course dictates a faster stroke rate. It will be a while before I work my way up to that.
It's kind of a throwback to my old style of biking, which was to almost never shift out of 10th gear. I had this bike (still ride it, but it's fixed now) that would seem to always shift back into 10th when I was going up hill so I got disgusted and just left it in 10th for a few years. That got me on the crew team in the first place--a friend of mine was a rower and after our first bike ride together, (on which I coasted up hills behind her,) she convinced me to go out for crew. Since then I've improved my biking technique and I'm a lot faster, but I think the early accidental resistance training in high school sort of stuck with me.
You are already doing super well for having just started rowing such a short time ago. I would work on increasing the strength of each drive a la Paul Smith's advice, and rowing strapless, if you are using the straps now.
Carla
Carla .... I am 5ft 9.... but not telling you how much I
weigh... but I am definately heavier than you as i am built like a brick ****
house ......as for upping the ante ... nah ... just want to improve me 2k at the
moment we are in the racing season here and it is 6 weeks to BIRC AHGGGG will
get back to the longer stuff after the New Year (will have a go at HM next week
though).
weg ..... wicked evil grin .....
gg....... giggle
lol..... laughing out loud...
pmsl .... peeing myself laughing ....
all in one one of those rowing suits .... that are all in one's ......
hope they help.....
weg ..... wicked evil grin .....
gg....... giggle
lol..... laughing out loud...
pmsl .... peeing myself laughing ....
all in one one of those rowing suits .... that are all in one's ......
hope they help.....
6 weeks? Is that all?!? OMFG =/
Well six weeks on Sunday Daren gives you another three
days etc ..lol ... you booked any accommodation yet ??? few of us staying at the
Crowne Plaza ...... deal with C2.... via the C2 Brit site .
No, not booked anything yet. I was planning on driving
down on the day, but I don't know what time my race will be so that might not be
the best plan.
Hi
I did a 2000 metre test instead of the training I said I was going to do. I had the shock of my life when I broke 7'10" for the first time. I'm still shaking like a leaf after the effort, my legs are unsteady, my lungs burn and I really don't feel too clever. Am I supposed to feel like this?
It all augurs well for BIRC, though. I think I may have underestimated my goal for this year. Ah well, just have to improve my goal setting for next year.
I think I'll rest tomorrow or just paddle for a while.
I really don't know how Martin, Dwayne and others row so fast.
Actually, I'm quite happy with what I did today. Thanks for allowing me to share this with you. I haven't the energy to shout from the roof tops like the rest of you wonderful people.
Try not to laugh at me, but while I've been writing this all I've been able to say is "bloody hell... 7.10. An old man like me." every so often.
I wonder what it would feel like to go under 7'. Nah! A ridiculous delusion.
Have fun guys and girls.
Bernard
I did a 2000 metre test instead of the training I said I was going to do. I had the shock of my life when I broke 7'10" for the first time. I'm still shaking like a leaf after the effort, my legs are unsteady, my lungs burn and I really don't feel too clever. Am I supposed to feel like this?
It all augurs well for BIRC, though. I think I may have underestimated my goal for this year. Ah well, just have to improve my goal setting for next year.
I think I'll rest tomorrow or just paddle for a while.
I really don't know how Martin, Dwayne and others row so fast.
Actually, I'm quite happy with what I did today. Thanks for allowing me to share this with you. I haven't the energy to shout from the roof tops like the rest of you wonderful people.
Try not to laugh at me, but while I've been writing this all I've been able to say is "bloody hell... 7.10. An old man like me." every so often.
I wonder what it would feel like to go under 7'. Nah! A ridiculous delusion.
Have fun guys and girls.
Bernard
I'm Back!!!
As planned, I did my 10,000m row this afternoon. Did a steady pace and finished in 42:25.6. No aches or pains (other than the normal ones!) so it went well and I'm looking forward to another session tomorrow morning.
I've been away on business for the last three days so it took me a long time to review all the postings I'd missed. I really didn't realise what an active thread this was until today.
Everyone's been really busy and achieving yet more PBs so well done to all.
As planned, I did my 10,000m row this afternoon. Did a steady pace and finished in 42:25.6. No aches or pains (other than the normal ones!) so it went well and I'm looking forward to another session tomorrow morning.
I've been away on business for the last three days so it took me a long time to review all the postings I'd missed. I really didn't realise what an active thread this was until today.
Everyone's been really busy and achieving yet more PBs so well done to all.
| QUOTE (Prufrock @ Oct 7 2004, 07:03 PM) |
| I had the shock of my life when I broke 7'10" for the first time. |
Excellent stuff! Well done!
2k's always make me feel queasy. I normally collapse on the carpet for 10 minutes before I even move again.
I tried to beat my 1k time today and died horribly half-way through. In the end I limped home 0.1s faster. =/
| QUOTE (AussieTaff @ Oct 6 2004, 10:07 PM) |
| [Sorry Chippy, checked the Nonathlon
rankings to see how Daren went only to find I'd been elbowed aside by
LLAMATRON too Time to
play my 'Ace', a 30 min effort at the gym. Mission accomplished, 8040.
Dying badly with 11 mins to go trying to hold the pace when a gorgeous
bare midriff squirted me with her water bottle (can
I read anything into that ladies ?). Next I recall it was only 7 mins to
go and I was out of the 'danger' zone. Time for some Nonathlon 'daylight'
between us !!!! Cheers Martin |
[QUOTE]
Martin
Well done fella,your 30min ace did the trick ill have to think of somethink to get me back up there.Not many lovely midrifts in my garage to spur me on just the thought of my mate in Risca trying to beat me.
Carole
I know your signed up with team Oarfull for the year and thats where you will have to stay.But next year we will need some one to keep us in order cos this team likes to party.
Chippy