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Niall
QUOTE (dadams @ Nov 15 2004, 10:59 AM)
Do I smell a sub 7 for BIRC!??!??!

It's a nice thought but not a realistic one this close to BIRC unfortunately. At the moment I'm trying to find the right pace that I can maintain for the majority of the 2K prior to the sprint home. As my current sprint home is about 1:45 (for the last 200m), it's unlikely (nice thought though).

I'm not going to rush the sub 7:00 target, it'll come in time and I'm sure it'll be this year. The BIRC objective is to do a solid time (sub 7:10) and enjoy the event as a whole (and that definietly includes meeting fellow Taff Attack team members and characters such as Sir Pirate and Carole Mac!).
Sir Pirate
Are you Taffs going to be waving a Welsh Flag so we know who you are at BIRC?. You will spot me as I look like a Pirate biggrin.gif

Sir Pirate
Niall
QUOTE (Sir Pirate @ Nov 15 2004, 11:15 AM)
You will spot me as I look like a Pirate biggrin.gif

You got a wooden leg and a parrot???? ohmy.gif
Godfried
QUOTE (AussieTaff @ Nov 15 2004, 01:58 AM)
Thanks too for the spreadsheets - I tried the FM one by changing the bold red Pace figure from 2.12.0 to 2.00.0 but then got #VALUE throughout 3 columns of the spreadsheet. Same thing happened to a lesser degree when I tried changing the 'break' figure (to 00.10.0). ????????

Sorry for that - I should have told you - here in the Netherlands we are used to "decimal point is comma" - so please try to enter 2:00,0 and see if that works - if so let us know.

I will try to make the sheet international - let you know when I succeed.
Daren C
Did a 30 minute test just now, and added a little bit to my distance. Previously 7910m, now 7954m. Not a big shouty PB. wink.gif Had 8k in my sights for a while, but it wasn't to be. Not today, anyway... =)
Godfried
QUOTE (Daren C @ Nov 15 2004, 03:53 PM)
BIRC "race plan" attempt 3.
...
Last time, 7:02.1.  This time... 6:56.3 Avg pace 1:44.1
...
BIRC doesn't matter quite as much now, but it'd still be nice to go even faster! wink.gif

Now you are ready for BIRC - as long as you don't try to improve the same there.

QUOTE (Niall @ Nov 15 2004, 04:05 PM)
In preparation for the BIRC
...
Final time (and a new PB) was 7:10.9
....
If I don't get chance to do this (I've got some business commitments away this week) then I'll stick to 1:48s for BIRC.

Another TAFF ready for BIRC. Be safe , don't try to overdo it.

QUOTE (Daren C @ Nov 15 2004, 07:27 PM)
Did a 30 minute test just now

previously 7910m, now 7954m.

Down boy , down.
Bore Da!
QUOTE (Sir Pirate @ Nov 15 2004, 11:15 AM)
Are you Taffs going to be waving a Welsh Flag so we know who you are at BIRC?. You will spot me as I look like a Pirate biggrin.gif

Sir Pirate

Phil,

You'll spot us, we'll all have 'Concept II Technician' T-shirts on, forged backstage passes around the neck, and belts laden with screwdrivers, housebricks, and anything else that will slow the opposition up, hanging off it.

Which erg was yours?

Chris
Godfried
QUOTE (Bore Da! @ Nov 15 2004, 11:20 PM)
You'll spot us, we'll all have 'Concept II Technician' T-shirts on, forged backstage passes around the neck, and belts laden with screwdrivers, housebricks, and anything else that will slow the opposition up, hanging off it.

And take this with you : user posted image
Daren C
You'll recognise me, because I'll look like this:

user posted image

Well, with different shorts on because those ones have a chamois in the seat, and I think it'd chafe on a rower.
chippy
QUOTE (Niall @ Nov 14 2004, 06:12 PM)
Some clever person has collated all the BIRC entries and produced some online tables. The most most pertinent to Taff Attack is the individual team schedules which shows:

user posted image

If you want to see all the information available click here

Suffice to say, there will be much cheering on of team colleagues at BIRC (Chris, I might be a little dry-mouthed for your race as it follows mine and Daren's but I'll be as vocal as possible!).

[QUOTE]


BERNARD REDMOND 65+ Grumpy
EDDY ENGLISH 60+ both will be rowing for the TA and they are of at 9.20am,Chris and i will be there early to cheer them on.Is the other Bernard having a row,if so what time . wink.gif

Nial /Darren
Great PBs for both of you. laugh.gif


Chippy. ph34r.gif
AussieTaff
GREAT row Mr 'PB Master-Blaster' Daren biggrin.gif You really cruised through the 7 min barrier in style and are set up beatifully for a BIG performance at BIRC on your own terms - no sub 7 pressure any more. Excellent 30 min row too so soon after that 2K monstering. Hurry up and join me on 8000+ then we can have a bit of 'friendly' rivalry to further help maintain your new found enthusiasm for erging - out times are pretty much on par at the moment (at least until you blow me away laugh.gif ).

Really pleased Niall to see your follow up 2K went so well, not only a PB but also (more importantly) a perfectly executed race strategy. One more in the same vein as you plan sounds spot on, with perhaps a 1K at sub 1:45 Ave pace (i.e. 3:29) to make those 1:47's on Sunday feel very comfortable in comparison.

Interesting to read how much Phil improved over 1 year, that takes a ton of determination - very inspiring.

Looks like there will be a big contingent of Taffs at BIRC - 7 ?

Martin smile.gif

PS Did Byron end up joining Taff Attack ? Haven't seen him in our Team List yet but I'm sure I read somewhere about a new 500m PB by Byron recently on that nice shiny new erg so he must have done 500m ?!
Prufrock
Hi


Yes the other Bernard is erging at 12.15 on D9. My best is 7.09.6 on my last test six weeks ago and I will not do another 2k until Sunday. I've a meeting with IBM on Thursday so I'm not going to do be able to do much this week as I have to prepare for this, so I doubt whether I'll beat this time on Sunday let alone get close to breaking 7 minutes. Naturally, I will endeavour to leave everything on the rower come 12.22 on Sunday.

Good luck all if I don't write before then.


Bernard
Sir Pirate
QUOTE (dadams @ Nov 14 2004, 05:27 PM)
Hey there Taffs. Convinced the wife to join the club. I assuming since she's married to a Taff, that she's a good canidate.

Speedy

Does that mean my mother-in-law can join Taff Attack then, she is not Welsh, or has never been to Wales, but I think she qualifies as a member as she is a Fire Breathing Dragon. biggrin.gif

Sir Pirate
dadams
QUOTE (Sir Pirate @ Nov 16 2004, 09:14 AM)
QUOTE (dadams @ Nov 14 2004, 05:27 PM)
Hey there Taffs. Convinced the wife to join the club. I assuming since she's married to a Taff, that she's a good canidate.

Speedy

Does that mean my mother-in-law can join Taff Attack then, she is not Welsh, or has never been to Wales, but I think she qualifies as a member as she is a Fire Breathing Dragon. biggrin.gif

Sir Pirate

Ouch!!! I'm assuming the wife won't be reading this post. Good luck if she does mate!!

Dwayne
Sir Pirate
QUOTE (dadams @ Nov 16 2004, 02:17 PM)
QUOTE (Sir Pirate @ Nov 16 2004, 09:14 AM)
QUOTE (dadams @ Nov 14 2004, 05:27 PM)
Hey there Taffs. Convinced the wife to join the club. I assuming since she's married to a Taff, that she's a good canidate.

Speedy

Does that mean my mother-in-law can join Taff Attack then, she is not Welsh, or has never been to Wales, but I think she qualifies as a member as she is a Fire Breathing Dragon. biggrin.gif

Sir Pirate

Ouch!!! I'm assuming the wife won't be reading this post. Good luck if she does mate!!

Dwayne

I,m not that bloody stupid tongue.gif

Sir Pirate
chippy
QUOTE (Prufrock @ Nov 16 2004, 05:19 AM)
Hi


Yes the other Bernard is erging at 12.15 on D9. My best is 7.09.6 on my last test six weeks ago and I will not do another 2k until Sunday. I've a meeting with IBM on Thursday so I'm not going to do be able to do much this week as I have to prepare for this, so I doubt whether I'll beat this time on Sunday let alone get close to breaking 7 minutes. Naturally, I will endeavour to leave everything on the rower come 12.22 on Sunday.

Good luck all if I don't write before then.


Bernard

[QUOTE]

Bernard
We will be shouting for you. tongue.gif

Sir Pirate
What time you sailing on sunday.


Chippy. ph34r.gif
rickster
GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE FOR THE BIRC HOPE YOU ALL GET PB'S.

Hey Darren that logo you have made is great, I think for next season we should get hold of a nice vest each and have that logo printed on we will all stand out then if we travel to comps. Just a thought.....

Wish I was coming to the BIRC but I have A Squash competition a little further north in Manchester. I'm sure Chippy will phone me with news of success.

Take care everyone and get lots of rest before SUNDAY'S BIG DAY!!!!!


RICKSTER wink.gif
Sir Pirate
QUOTE (chippy @ Nov 16 2004, 08:27 PM)
Sir Pirate
What time you sailing on sunday.

I shall be sailing the Good Ship Lactic at 12:45 (Mens 35-39 Hwt) shall be on Erg A18 (at the front) so can can throw abuse at me unsure.gif

Sir Pirate
Bore Da!
Long overdue, but here it is - Woodies interview. Sorry its so long, but you all now how he 'goes on'.

Hi Chris, Thought I had escaped this !!
1. Where were you born, and where do you live now?
Aberystwyth (pop. 8000), Wales 1949, now living in Melbourne (pop. 3 milion), Australia.

2. You are exactly the type of person we set out to recruit - born in wales, living abroad. Do you miss Wales and would you consider returning? (If answer NO go to 3a, if answer YES go to 3b)
Yes, for a visit - maybe next year now I'm sort of retired. Caldicot and Chepstow high up on the list of places if I make it.

3a Are you sure, its a real nice place?

3b Are you nuts, we have loads of horizontal rain?
And sleet and fog and weak sunshine and no surf beaches and a funny language and .......

4. Who are your sporting hero's, Speedy and........?
Tough question Parks. I tend to be inspired by lots of people and their achievements. If I had to choose - then Speedy and ... Louise Savage (Aussie wheechair athlete) or Ian Thorpe (Aussie swimmer) - they are larger than life in their achievements yet there is a 'niceness' about them that is very inclusive.

5. How come you know so much about rowing?
Fooled youse all - who says I actually KNOW anything !!! I Had the good fortune to row under 2 excellent coaches in the early 70's - one coached the Rome Olympics Aussie 8 and the other rowed in the 1958 Commonwealth Games winning 8. Something had to sink in I guess.

6. When did you start erging and why?
Middle of last year after 1st hernia operation - Saw the ergs over in the corner of the gym and enjoyed reliving the old rowing days once a week.

7. BRIEFLY explain your training plan?
Easy - no real plan! Go to gym 3-4 times a week to either - do a PB if fired up, have a fun 'arm wrestle' row with Vanessa, Gail, Robert or any other unsuspecting gym person I can rope in, or simply get up some metres for TA practising long distance stuff. I'm a very unstructured trainer saved only by past rowing experiences to fall back on!

8. Whats the proper procedure for lighting a barbeque?
Throw some petrol on it, then get a mate to light it.

9. What motivates you to row each (second) day?
Thats easy - Taff Attack metres and being able to bang on about it in another long winded post from 'Aussietaff'. Also to see what I'm ultimately capable of.

10. Whats your greatest sporting achievement, proudest moment?
Probably winning the 1973 State Championship Division 2 eights by 3 feet!!! We were really putting in the big ones at the end with the other crew alongside being so close (and doing the same).

11. Favourite 'Taff Attack' memory/moment?
Has to be Chris's "Agh Wah" post - I'm still laughing! Captures my sense of humour to a tee.
Have to also mention
Speedy's 5:47 - spine tingling (and so laid back in the telling)
Niall's 7:13 after I encouraged him to go for the low DF - my coaching reputation hung in the balance!! Thanks Niall for not bombing out!
Teaming up with Carla to get to 500000m
Doing a sub 18 min 5K to top Chris's 18:14 and enjoying his congratulatory post!

12. Who would you like to see interviewed next?
Speedy

13. Have you ever stolen anything?
Yes - uh uh here comes Carole and Mike with that outstanding warrant. "It
was a tough neighbourhood officer and all us kids was nicking fings".

14. If I was to say 'odd shaped balls', whats the first thing that jumps into your head?
Duh?! Absolutely nothing except odd shaped balls !!!

15. What questions do you wish I had asked?
This was gruelling enough

Niall would like to know the following:
16. What is the best advice you’ve been given which has resulted in the most significant improvement in your erg times?
Improvement in TECHNIQUE - S10PS courtesy of PaulS posts, low DF (117 for me) courtesy of numerous authors. Improvements in TIMES have mainly come from within thus far, simply the desire to better the last PB. The somewhat tongue-in-cheek phrase "Go out Hard, Pick it up in the Middle and Sprint Home" I actually find quite motivating as a 'strategy'! Improvements in times come from a combination of - fitness, technique and will.

17. If you could choose two people from any time in history to spend an evening with (I’m thinking dinner and drinks here and not boudoir!), who would they be and why?
Sir Ernest Shackleton and Catherine Zeta-Jones. Shacks because his great escape (no lives lost) from that ill-fated Antarctic expedition in 1915/16 was indeed the stuff of legends and Catherine because she is a Welsh goddess. With Shacks at the table no-one else would (or needs to) get a word in - I could listen to him yarning away all night and look at Cathy at the same time ... ah heaven !!! Wonder if she is still erging (how else could she look the way she does) and wants to join TA .... see what you can do Chris.

18. For the record, what are your short term (this season) and long term rowing objectives?
This season - finish in the top 10% for 9 out of 10 Ranking categories for my age group (forget the 500m !) and in the top 20 for Nonathlon (not sure about this one - not familiar with 'opposition'). Long term - Do a sub 2:50 FM, a sub 1:20 HM, sub 37:00 10K, sub 6:40 2K.

19. When you’re not erging and running and being an all round super athlete, do you have time for any hobbies?
Yes - hobbies include being interviewed, guest appearances etc!!! Seriously though, being sort of retired frees up a lot of spare time which at the moment seems to be soaked up nicely without the need for other hobbies thus far.

20. What made you move to Australia (not enough sheep in Wales for you??)? {see question 13 above - chris}
Dad got a job in Brisbane, Australia when I was 16 so out we all came by boat via the Suez Canal in 1966. What an experience - 4 weeks of magic on that ship. Haven't been back since so looking forward to some long overdue reunions!

Well done Top Man!
dadams
Great interview. I love these!!
Bore Da!
I know, I keep reading the answers to questions 8 and 13 - I just keep laughing
Niall
QUOTE (dadams @ Nov 17 2004, 08:57 AM)
Great interview. I love these!!

Hope you enjoy them being on the receiving end next time around!

It's been quiet from me of late as I've been away on business plus I've not been contributing many metres as I'm tapering down ready for BIRC. Got my last 2K time trial tomorrow before Sunday and I might aswell publish my objective now so it's recorded (it'll motivate me to stick to it tomorrow!). The planned splits for tomorrow's 2K is going to be slightly different to Monday's (you may recall that game plan was to 1:48 for the first 1750 and then go for it), this time round it's going to be:

2000m-1500m
1:46
1500m-500m
1:47
500m-250m
1:46
250m-0m
1:44

That'll give me a new PB of 7:05 and line me up for a sub 7:00 sometime during the coming weeks (but unlikely at BIRC).

There! It's done! Just need to do it now!! sad.gif

Due to my lack of metres this week, unsurprisingly, Bernard's overtaken me and Mikez gaining on me (and will no doubt pass me shortly). Congratulations Bernard for going through the 800,000 mark, well done! smile.gif

All I'll say is make the most of it guys 'cause as of next week I'm back in the seat!! cool.gif
Look forward to a three-way battle for 9th place!
chippy
Martin
Luved the interview

Chippy. ph34r.gif
chippy
Rickster
Good luck in Manchester with the Squash. wink.gif

Chippy. ph34r.gif
AussieTaff
QUOTE (Niall @ Nov 17 2004, 03:36 PM)
The planned splits for tomorrow's 2K is going to be slightly different to Monday's (you may recall that game plan was to 1:48 for the first 1750 and then go for it), this time round it's going to be:

2000m-1500m - 1:46
1500m-500m - 1:47
500m-250m - 1:46
250m-0m - 1:44

That'll give me a new PB of 7:05 and line me up for a sub 7:00

As your self-appointed totally unqualified 'coach' Niall I give your plan the 'Crusty Seal of Approval' laugh.gif

Couple of thoughts - If you find it really heavy going in the middle parts don't worry about 'easing off' for a few strokes to regain equilibrium, then back into it. Much more effective overall than grinding on and hitting the wall. However, if you are going gangbusters and feeling great then 'go for it'! Daren did it (in style too) and BIRC is another day - today's row is NOW. You are fit enough, have the technique, only leaves the will. So, if row is a struggle - never mind, just a 'tester', if row is bonzer then .....

Good luck in holding off Mike, the man is out of the Speedy mold.

Martin smile.gif
Niall
Sorry coach, let you down today sad.gif .
Didn't get the mental focus right and went out at 1:45 for the first 300m (34spm) and this basically killed me. I ended up stopping for about 20 seconds after 900m and then realised I wouldn't learn anything from the splits unless I finished the piece. Limped home in 7:38 and completely disappointed in myself.

In addition to the mental difficiency I think my warmup was too string. I tried out some different ideas during the 100m sprints of my 2K warmup and don't think I let myself rest enough before the time trial. I'm also wondering whether my break in rowing (none since Monday lunchtime) did me no favours as I felt uncomfortable in the row and lacked the relaxed, controlled strokes of Monday. This are petty quibbles though. The bottom line is I wasn't strong enough mentally and I need to turn this round for Sunday.

Should I do a gentle row tomorrow (10K?) or leave it completely until Sunday?

If you're interested, my heart rate graph for today can be seen here (the graph shows the 2K warmup, the "time trial" 2K and then 2x3K to cool down).

Splits were:

01:45.7 (34spm)
01:44.0 (35)
01:45.2 (34)
01:47.5 (31)
01:48.5 (33)
01:48.1 (31)
01:50.1 (30)
01:51.1 (30)
02:48.4 (18) ; this is where I stopped for 20 secs or so!
01:56.2 (28)
01:57.0 (28)
01:57.0 (28)
01:54.5 (29)
01:54.5 (29)
01:58.8 (30)
01:57.2 (28)
01:51.3 (30)
01:53.9 (29)
01:50.6 (30)
01:51.5 (32)


As you can see my stroke rate is lower than Monday's PB which was around 31spm.
dadams
QUOTE (Niall @ Nov 18 2004, 03:10 PM)
Didn't get the mental focus right

Niall,
Can't tell you how important it is to have yourself set mentally before you sit down. Especially come BIRC. Don't know if this will help you at all, but...what I do is take about 20 to 30 minutes to go over in my mind stroke for stroke what the race is going to look like for me. I get myself away from everything/everybody, and just sit down and close my eyes. I go through the start, the first, second and third 500, and then the finish. I visualize every single stroke. The way they're going to feel, and the split that I'll have for them.

You overcome the mind, the body will follow!!

Dwayne
Niall
That's great Speedy, many thanks for the advice. I can see (excuse the pun) how this would help prepare me mentally. It's true what they say, it's as much mental as it is physical (maybe even moreso). We should spend time training our minds aswell as our bodies. Interesting concept... dry.gif
Godfried
QUOTE (Niall @ Nov 18 2004, 10:10 PM)
I think my warmup was too strong.

Warmup too strong. Yep.

I am definitively not an expert, but IMHO warmup should not be above 140 ( 150 ? ).

At the beginning of the 2k, it also looks high to me.

85 is nice and low.
at the start of 2k it is 110/120, I don't like that.

but who am I?

Just stick to the plan at BIRC and I am sure you will do better.
AussieTaff
Hi Niall, too bad about the last row but thats rowing - some rows great, some OK and some yuk ! Thats why we need to do a number of 2K'ers - not every one will be great. You have now probably found your first 300m pace 'limit' for now, thats all. Had you had time to do the sub 3:30 1K that would have told you whether 1:45's are feasible, yesterday's row was its replacement. My inclination is to do another 2K going out a bit slower and make that last one ancient history but thats only my 'gut' feeling and what I would do, over to you for what you feel is best Niall.

Martin smile.gif
Niall
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Michael Zirpoli      808,723
Bernard Baptiste     802,385
Niall Williams       802,142


Great work Mikez, you've really put in a big effort today and passed Bernard and I into 9th place!

Mrs Speedy continues to contribute metres to the team (I can just picture her drumming her fingers on top of the fly wheel waiting for Dwayne to finish his erg session!).

Top effort from Ray aswell, another 5K in the bag if I'm not mistaken. Great effort man!

Thanks for the feedback Martin/Godfried, I'm really in two minds as to what to do tomorrow. One mind says to put in a gentle 10K (bit like Tom Cruise getting back in that Top Gun fighter after his best friend Goose has bought it) while the other mind says to put in a solid 2K (i.e. mirror last Monday's 1:48 pace) to set my mind at rest.

I'm going to sleep on it and see what comes tomorrow. I'll keep you posted.
AussieTaff
QUOTE (Niall @ Nov 18 2004, 05:00 PM)
I'm really in two minds as to what to do tomorrow. One mind says to put in a gentle 10K (bit like Tom Cruise getting back in that Top Gun fighter after his best friend Goose has bought it) while the other mind says to put in a solid 2K (i.e. mirror last Monday's 1:48 pace) to set my mind at rest.

I'm going to sleep on it and see what comes tomorrow. I'll keep you posted.

Seeing as you haven't yet "Crashed and Burned" Tom (can only do that at BIRC, training rows don't count !!!) you haven't earned a gentle 10K'er yet laugh.gif Remember the old adage - "how you train is how you race", i.e. the more training that targets the race the better the odds of a good race.

"Iceman" smile.gif
Niall
2K it is then!!!

I can sleep easy now...
AussieTaff
Good man Niall biggrin.gif. Speedy's advice re focus is spot on, bit harder at a gym but try to incorporate it if possible.

Just a thought - when I'm training for shorter distance PB's and I find the first 500m. say, isn't working out (i.e. I'm dying fast) because pace is a new 'PB' itself then I simply pull out of the piece, wander round the gym to recover, get back mental focus and do the piece again rather than flog through the rest of it. After all, its only a training session. Learned that from one of my coaches - every time we did a crappy 500m piece he would stop us immediately he could see it wasn't any good and get us to refocus rather than waste energy on a poor piece.

Martin smile.gif

PS There is a school of thought that says 'Never pull out of a piece otherwise it becomes a habit' but I haven't found that to be the case in practise personally. "Flogging a dead horse' is much more draining mentally and physically in my opinion laugh.gif
AussieTaff
Hi Chris, how's the BIRC training going for Chippy, Bernie Snr and you ?

I'm looking forward to Speedy's interview after BIRC.

Mike, congrats on passing the Niall/Bernie combo. I saw an episode of "The Apprentice" last night in which the teams had to come up with a recruitment campaign for the NYPD - did you feature at all ?

Martin smile.gif
Mikez
QUOTE (Niall @ Nov 18 2004, 05:00 PM)
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Michael Zirpoli      808,723
Bernard Baptiste     802,385
Niall Williams       802,142


Thanks Niall, for the complement, I am sorry to pass you and bernard while you are both getting ready for the BIRC, I am sure you will both do well there and then be right back in the taff attack meter race. Nevertheless Debra is next on my scope. Spot # 8 looks nice. biggrin.gif

Welcome aboard Ms . Speedy biggrin.gif I am hoping your entry will inspire Ms. Mikez to get aboard, even though Graham had a long talk with her,( she claims your were not speaking english to her Graham) I can not get her to join. Mikez the little is in for his xmas pin though. I told him he could see how he likes the pain first.

Sorry had nothing to do with recruiting Martin. I myself still cannot believed they hired me let alone keep promoting me. " a job for one who is of job age" Clockwork Orange.

Best of luck to all at Birc, Then get back to erging distance Chris Your spot is looking sweeter and sweeter laugh.gif biggrin.gif
Mike
Bore Da!
QUOTE (AussieTaff @ Nov 18 2004, 05:35 PM)
Hi Chris, how's the BIRC training going for Chippy, Bernie Snr and you ?

I'm looking forward to Speedy's interview after BIRC.

Cant comment on the other two, only to say I know how competetive they both are and how they will call on their massive reserves of guts to do what they have too. As for me - Southhamton was a disaster - I knew that before I went, and I went off too hard, but the prep for birc has been a lot different, and I have felt different on the machine, ie pulling consistant sub 1:35 was always hard for me, and going under 1:30 nigh on impossible - the last few weeks I can pull and hold 1:33s and I can max at 1:28. Big improvements from where I was. I'll do 1:41 off start, then 1:42 till last 400m - just remains to see what I got left but if its sub 1:40 then i'll be close - either way I am confident of a new PB - BUT a race start is going to cost at least 1 second, which is alot when you so close to the boarderline. Im also guessing the NEC is going to be HOT! HOT! HOT! - as it doesnt have the moden aircon of my garage in Wales!
Bore Da!
QUOTE (Mikez @ Nov 18 2004, 07:24 PM)
Best of luck to all at Birc, Then get back to erging distance Chris Your spot is looking sweeter and sweeter laugh.gif biggrin.gif
Mike

Mike,

Your 'aving A LAFF!!!!

Chris
SteveV
QUOTE (Bore Da! @ Nov 19 2004, 05:27 AM)
Im also guessing the NEC is going to be HOT! HOT! HOT! - as it doesnt have the moden aircon of my garage in Wales!

I don't remembe rit being too hot at the NIA, the air was a bit DRY and dusty, otherwise it's a great venue
dadams
Taffs,
Since a good portion of you are getting ready for BIRC, and the meters won't be put in so much this weekend, I was thinking about doing a eight hour erg piece for the lot of you. Help us to keep in the hunt with MIT.

I will dedicate this to all of you who are BIRC'ing it this weekend. The best to all of you.

Speedy
Daren C
Dwayne, you're crazy! Have fun!

I've finished my rowing until after the race, now. Actually, I didn't do any yesterday or Wednesday because I was busy programming. So today I just did what the UK forum know as a "Hywel session", named after the guy that introduced them to the forum (as far as I know).

Basically, it's 6 x 1:20 at desired race pace. Rest between reps starts at 1 minute, with the aim being to reduce the rest by 10 seconds each week, second week or whatever.

My 2K race pace is around 1:44 for my best time, so I struck out aiming at 1:40s. Hehe, a bit ambitious I think. I managed the first 3 intervals on pace, but I had to drop it on the final three.

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Sp Pace Dst Av Pwr SPM  SPI  HR
------- --- ------ --- ---- ---
1:40.50 398 344.78  29 11.9 144
1:40.25 399 347.38  29 12.0 174
1:40.25 399 347.38  31 11.2 177
1:43.09 388 319.44  31 10.3 178
1:43.36 387 316.97  30 10.6 178
1:42.56 390 324.40  32 10.1 178


Still, the average pace was 1:41.7 so I reckon I can start looking at 1:41 for all 6 next time (still with the full minute rest). If I can get the rests down over the coming months, that'll be good for a 6:44, which is a halfway house between the sub-7 I recently passed, and the sub-6:30 I'm looking for now. sub-6:45 seems a decent place to go via.

Anyway, no more until 12:45pm on Sunday now. =)
Sir Pirate
QUOTE (dadams @ Nov 19 2004, 01:16 PM)
Taffs,
Since a good portion of you are getting ready for BIRC, and the meters won't be put in so much this weekend, I was thinking about doing a eight hour erg piece for the lot of you. Help us to keep in the hunt with MIT.

I will dedicate this to all of you who are BIRC'ing it this weekend. The best to all of you.

Speedy

I think Dwayne may of, or is about too, have is first row with his new wife biggrin.gif laugh.gif

Sir Pirate
dadams
QUOTE (Sir Pirate @ Nov 19 2004, 09:49 AM)
QUOTE (dadams @ Nov 19 2004, 01:16 PM)
Taffs,
Since a good portion of you are getting ready for BIRC, and the meters won't be put in so much this weekend, I was thinking about doing a eight hour erg piece for the lot of you. Help us to keep in the hunt with MIT.

I will dedicate this to all of you who are BIRC'ing it this weekend. The best to all of you.

Speedy

I think Dwayne may of, or is about too, have is first row with his new wife biggrin.gif laugh.gif

Sir Pirate

Call me a silly American if you'd like (you probably do already!!), but I just don't get this one Phil. I'm sure it's funny in Brit-land. It must be some of that British humor we hear so much about over here. wink.gif
Niall
QUOTE (dadams @ Nov 19 2004, 08:16 AM)
Taffs,
Since a good portion of you are getting ready for BIRC, and the meters won't be put in so much this weekend, I was thinking about doing a eight hour erg piece for the lot of you. Help us to keep in the hunt with MIT.

I will dedicate this to all of you who are BIRC'ing it this weekend. The best to all of you.

Speedy

Dwayne,

One word, RESPECT.
Nuff said!
Bore Da!
QUOTE
I was thinking about doing a eight hour erg piece for the lot of you.

Thanks Man!
JSamuel
QUOTE (dadams @ Nov 19 2004, 07:30 PM)
QUOTE (Sir Pirate @ Nov 19 2004, 09:49 AM)
QUOTE (dadams @ Nov 19 2004, 01:16 PM)
Taffs,
Since a good portion of you are getting ready for BIRC, and the meters won't be put in so much this weekend, I was thinking about doing a eight hour erg piece for the lot of you. Help us to keep in the hunt with MIT.

I will dedicate this to all of you who are BIRC'ing it this weekend. The best to all of you.

Speedy

I think Dwayne may of, or is about too, have is first row with his new wife biggrin.gif laugh.gif

Sir Pirate

Call me a silly American if you'd like (you probably do already!!), but I just don't get this one Phil. I'm sure it's funny in Brit-land. It must be some of that British humor we hear so much about over here. wink.gif

Had to read that one twice myself. I read it as row (erg) not row (arguement) smile.gif

Good luck to everyone going to BIRC and to Dwayne should you do an 8 hours piece (you're a machine, man. Don't think I could walk for 8 hours! What kind of pace would that be at?)
Sir Pirate
QUOTE (dadams @ Nov 19 2004, 07:30 PM)
QUOTE (Sir Pirate @ Nov 19 2004, 09:49 AM)
QUOTE (dadams @ Nov 19 2004, 01:16 PM)
Taffs,
Since a good portion of you are getting ready for BIRC, and the meters won't be put in so much this weekend, I was thinking about doing a eight hour erg piece for the lot of you. Help us to keep in the hunt with MIT.

I will dedicate this to all of you who are BIRC'ing it this weekend. The best to all of you.

Speedy

I think Dwayne may of, or is about too, have is first row with his new wife biggrin.gif laugh.gif

Sir Pirate

Call me a silly American if you'd like (you probably do already!!), but I just don't get this one Phil. I'm sure it's funny in Brit-land. It must be some of that British humor we hear so much about over here. wink.gif

The English language is a very strange thing.
I wrote-

I think Dwayne may of, or is about too, have is first "row" with his new wife.

To me that makes perfect sense, but to others you can not understand it. If I change 1 word, all should become clear-

I think Dwayne may of, or is about too, have is first "argument" with his new wife

Bad choice of word in the 1st place I think! I know, still not funny, I’ll get my coat!! rolleyes.gif blink.gif

Sir Pirate

Niall
Sorry (again) to report that my lead up to BIRC hasn't gone to plan. This time it was nothing to do with mental hardness or fitness (per se). My shoulders still felt fatigued from yesterday's row so I decided not to do any rowing and fully rest for Sunday.

It's not ideal I know so my plan for Sunday will be back to my PB strategy last week of maintaining 1:48 for 1500. Depending on how I feel, I'll look to up the pace from 500m out rather than 250m on Monday. That should give me a new PB of under 7:10.

The key for me is to make sure I don't go out too fast, stick to the plan and then appraise how I feel going into the fourth quarter.

We'll see how it goes... wink.gif

Thanks to everyone for their support and help, it's been great. I just hope I can turn it into a PB.
smile.gif
Niall
QUOTE (Sir Pirate @ Nov 19 2004, 03:36 PM)
Bad choice of word in the 1st place I think! I know, still not funny, I’ll get my coat!! rolleyes.gif blink.gif

"TAXI FOR SIR PIRATE!!" tongue.gif
Niall
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Bernard! You mad, impestuous fool! smile.gif You've gone and put in a 15K session with less than two days to BIRC. You're certainly a competitive son-of-a-$%^&#!!

Bet you've gone and upset Mikez now. He'll be polishing his truncheon and rattling his handcuffs in frustration. I certainly pity the criminals in NY, they're gonna get it big time 'cause of you!! ph34r.gif
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