)Look forward to seeing the result, no pressure
Sir Pirate (Lord)
| QUOTE (seat5 @ Nov 2 2004, 07:42 AM) |
| Now my Taff-o-graph should look a little more respectable. |
Great work, Carla, but : your 1k is slower than your 5k, 6k, 30mins and 10k average.
Your 5k also
needs some cleaning. 
Just do a 5k with 1k split - do it at 6k average - and you can put 3 more great times in it.
And you can be breathing in the neck of our AussieTaff.
| QUOTE (seat5 @ Nov 2 2004, 12:42 AM) |
| WOW MARTIN!
How can you hold a sub 2:00 pace for an HM! How many more
Nonathlon points did that get you? It must have moved you up the N.
rankings considerably. Carla |
WOW to you too Carla, if I'm not mistaken your 6K PB puts you 3rd in your age group as well.
Thanks for the congrats Carla, Daren and Niall. Nonathlon points went up by 20 (2 min improvement on old HM PB) but I've 'hit the wall' in the Rankings - next place above me a whopping 100 points away. Crikey
Tks for updating Taff-o-Graffs so quickly Godfried - looks like I've got to do that HM all over again though as pace graph line still looks out of kilter. All is revealed by the 'language of Maths' - nowhere to hide ! Unless of course you make the 'Y Axis' scale really tiny ....
And as for
Carla 'breathing down my neck' - from the Nonathlon graph line it looks like
she's standing on it !! Oh well, at least Debra's line is under control (for
now).Time for a BIG sleep - no 2am training programs for me
Martin
| QUOTE (Byron Drachman @ Nov 1 2004, 05:15 PM) |
| Besides having a grandfather on maternal
side with a Welsh surname (Edwards—that’s Welsh, not English according to
my references), I just checked my genealogy program. Dafydd ap Owanin
Gwynedd, Prince of Gwynedd, was my third cousin, 29 times removed. He
married Emma Plantagenet who was his half 7th cousin once removed. I am
half 22nd great-grandnephew of Emma Plantagenet. In addition, Bryn Terfel is one of my favorite singers. When I do music while erging, I’ll listen to Bryn. Close enough? Byron |
Byron,
Welcome aboard.
Interesting story with the genealogy program. I did the same thing going on two years ago now, and found that I was successor to the Earl of Brockhurst. I did all the legal stuff I needed to do with the Brit government, and bingo bango. I inherited a title that had been 'sleeping' for some 700 years. Not that it's going to bring me any fame or fortune, but it helps to keep a certain chap by the name of 'Sir Pirate' (a MAD team member who's a thorn in TA's side (Just kidding Phil)) bowing like he should be.
Again, welcome aboard.
Speedy
| QUOTE (dadams @ Nov 2 2004, 01:26 PM) |
| I inherited a title that had been
'sleeping' for some 700 years. Not that it's going to bring me any fame or
fortune, but it helps to keep a certain chap by the name of 'Sir Pirate'
(a MAD team member who's a thorn in TA's side (Just kidding Phil)) bowing
like he should be. Again, welcome aboard. Speedy |
Mr Speedy Mc Speedo, you are only a Duke, I am a Sir, it is you that should be bowing to me
Done your Marathon yet!!? if not, why not?
Sir "Higher than a Duke" Pirate
| QUOTE (Sir Pirate @ Nov 2 2004, 09:25 AM) |
| Done your Marathon yet!!? if not, why
not? Sir "Higher than a Duke" Pirate |
Looking forward to doing it this weekend, since you've asked. Baring anything going aloof, I'm hoping to hit right around the 2:30 range.
Beg your pardon my lord.
Speedy - High Grand Earl of Speedom
Best of luck with that. Thats 1:45 split (2hrs 30min) if
I am correct. Are you aiming to beat Xeno's time that he did on slides (NO!!! Mr
Rupp, bite your lip )
Look forward to seeing the result, no pressure
Sir Pirate (Lord)
)Look forward to seeing the result, no pressure
Sir Pirate (Lord)
| QUOTE (Sir Pirate @ Nov 2 2004, 09:47 AM) |
| Best of luck with that. Thats 1:45 split
(2hrs 30min) if I am correct. Are you aiming to beat Xeno's time that he
did on slides (NO!!! Mr Rupp, bite your lip
) Look forward to seeing the result, no pressure
Sir Pirate (Lord) |
I don't know about beating Xeno's slide time. Haven't even looked to see what it is. If it's something insanely fast like his 6k, then forget it. We'll have to wait and see.
Speedy
I think it was 2Hrs 30mins 8secs
Sir Pirate (Lord) (of_the_rings)
Sir Pirate (Lord) (of_the_rings)
| QUOTE (Sir Pirate @ Nov 2 2004, 10:35 AM) |
| I think it was 2Hrs 30mins 8secs Sir Pirate (Lord) (of_the_rings) |
Done on the slides? Really? I'm thinking I can beat that kids.
Lord of the Rings?? Maybe Gollum, looking for the Precious (the preciously perfect 2k!!).
Speedy - Grand High Earlness of the Speed, Lord of quick.
Hi Godfried,
| QUOTE |
| your 1k is slower than your 5k, 6k, 30mins
and 10k average. Just do a 5k with 1k split - do it at 6k average - and you can put 3 more great times in it.
|
Part of the trouble is that I can't do a fast start from a stopped flywheel. Even after a nice slow 2K warmup (say 10--11 min), when I sit down to do my next piece it takes me about a minute or so to get the pace where it needs to be. On the shorter pieces, that really blows the total time. To get the pace down in a few strokes puts way too much pressure on my lower back. Don't know if it will ever be ok, but I'm not going to force that and end up not walking, standing, or sitting for a few months....and then dragging one leg for a few more....wondering if I should apply for a handicapped parking space sign...no thanks.... been there, done that, and it's NO FUN!
The splits for the first 1K of the 6K were 2:04.3 and 2:03.7 which would be 2 seconds faster than the official 1K time I've got down there and the 500 of course ends up slower than my official 500. A 2K would have been 2:04.3 +2:03.7 + 2:03.1 +2:03.2=8:14.3--certainly nothing to write home about with my old PB being 7:48.something.
Think I'll just leave the gap on the graph for the time being.
Carla
GO FOR IT SIR DWAYNE!!!!!!
Can't wait to see your post about the marathon. If you think you can beat Xeno I'm sure you can! Go Super Taff!
Carla
Can't wait to see your post about the marathon. If you think you can beat Xeno I'm sure you can! Go Super Taff!
Carla
Go For It Sir Speedy!!!! Welcome Byron!!!
RICKSTER
RICKSTER
I read with interest recently a posting on the Training
Forum on the Oarsome Foursome Training DVD. In particular, the reviewer gave a
blow-by-blow account of the rowing technique demonstrated. Armed with this new
found knowledge, I did my 10K session this afternoon and concentrated on keeping
the chain straight (and not undulating like a force 4 swell like I normally do
).
Well, what a difference it made! New SB too which was a nice bonus, although as you'll see from the splits below, I did have a period in the middle where I felt I couldn't sustain the rate and went back to old habits. However, after the 1500m lapse, I realised a SB was on the cards and focused on maintaining this new technique and worry about the pain afterwards.
I also have to say to Carla that I'm now a big convert to the Average Pace display on the monitor. Without this display I don't think I'd have had the confidence to go for the SB after lapsing.
Anyway, time for the big red font that indicates a PB or SB (in my case a SB!). New SB for 10K is now 39:27.4. Even though a sub-39mins time would seem to be a long way off, I certainly think I have the confidence to go for it after I've got over my cold and post-BIRC.
And for those that are interested, here are the splits:
1:58.5 (29spm)
1:57.3 (29)
1:56.6 (29)
1:56.4 (28)
1:57.0 (29)
1:57.7 (28)
2:00.6 (27)
2:02.4 (27)
2:01.0 (27)
1:59.5 (28)
1:58.5 (28)
1:58.7 (28)
1:59.1 (28)
1:59.7 (28)
1:59.4 (28)
1:59.4 (28)
1:58.8 (28)
1:57.8 (28)
1:57.9 (28)
1:51.1 (30)
).Well, what a difference it made! New SB too which was a nice bonus, although as you'll see from the splits below, I did have a period in the middle where I felt I couldn't sustain the rate and went back to old habits. However, after the 1500m lapse, I realised a SB was on the cards and focused on maintaining this new technique and worry about the pain afterwards.
I also have to say to Carla that I'm now a big convert to the Average Pace display on the monitor. Without this display I don't think I'd have had the confidence to go for the SB after lapsing.
Anyway, time for the big red font that indicates a PB or SB (in my case a SB!). New SB for 10K is now 39:27.4. Even though a sub-39mins time would seem to be a long way off, I certainly think I have the confidence to go for it after I've got over my cold and post-BIRC.
And for those that are interested, here are the splits:
1:58.5 (29spm)
1:57.3 (29)
1:56.6 (29)
1:56.4 (28)
1:57.0 (29)
1:57.7 (28)
2:00.6 (27)
2:02.4 (27)
2:01.0 (27)
1:59.5 (28)
1:58.5 (28)
1:58.7 (28)
1:59.1 (28)
1:59.7 (28)
1:59.4 (28)
1:59.4 (28)
1:58.8 (28)
1:57.8 (28)
1:57.9 (28)
1:51.1 (30)
Anyone setting a PB deserves praise, its the way of
things so well done Carla and Naill. BUT in particular reference to Martins HM
PB and Speedys up and coming 2:40 (2:30??) marathon attempt I only have two
words to say, and only the second one is printable, so here it is:
Hell
Hell
Congrats Niall on the new pb.
Niall
Great going on the 10K. I have not done one of them in 6 months. Great row
Sir (Lazy) Pirate
Great going on the 10K. I have not done one of them in 6 months. Great row
Sir (Lazy) Pirate
Great row Niall!
I decided to mimic Deren's extraordinary weekend 20x500 with a complete rest of about 2 minutes followed by 1 min 30sec paddle in between. I didn't go flat out on any of them and settled for 1'50" or thereabouts.
Not feeling too bad. I thought I'd feel worse, but I feel ok.
Bernard
I decided to mimic Deren's extraordinary weekend 20x500 with a complete rest of about 2 minutes followed by 1 min 30sec paddle in between. I didn't go flat out on any of them and settled for 1'50" or thereabouts.
Not feeling too bad. I thought I'd feel worse, but I feel ok.
Bernard
| QUOTE |
| I decided to mimic Deren's extraordinary weekend 20x500 |
And you've jumped back over me in the team standings!
I
was just getting used to that 9th place too! This little battle of ours for the 9th position is certainly benefiting the team metres. I've certainly put in extra metres just to stay in touch with you Bernard!
You must be very satisfied with your 20x500m session as you clearly completed it quite comfortably. Well done.
The battle for 9th place will resume tomorrow...
(God knows when I'm gonna have chance to do some 2K training!!)
Great Row,
Niall!
It's great to see you and Bernard battling it out! It is amazingly motivational to be always so close.
Is that the Xeno DVD or a different one? I'm thinking of buying Xeno's. Sounds like whichever one you have helped you out a lot. About the chain, do you mean you normally row so that it goes left/right a lot, or up/down?
Keep up the great work. Do you comminicate with the family about how the challenge is going or do they not know you are doing it? If you haven't already done it I'll bet it would really "erg you on" to have a photo of the girl there by your machine to keep you going when you don't feel like it anymore.
Carla
It's great to see you and Bernard battling it out! It is amazingly motivational to be always so close.
Is that the Xeno DVD or a different one? I'm thinking of buying Xeno's. Sounds like whichever one you have helped you out a lot. About the chain, do you mean you normally row so that it goes left/right a lot, or up/down?
Keep up the great work. Do you comminicate with the family about how the challenge is going or do they not know you are doing it? If you haven't already done it I'll bet it would really "erg you on" to have a photo of the girl there by your machine to keep you going when you don't feel like it anymore.
Carla
Thanks Carla (by the way, I'm one place below you in
Nonathlon rankings 
).
I'm loving the battle with Bernard. And I think
he's kinda enjoying it too!
The DVD I referred to was not the Xeno one but the Oarsome Foursome DVD. You can get some details of its content here. Apparently the DVD will be available in the States before Thanksgiving. You can read about the rowing technique and some info on the DVD itself by clicking here.
The family know I'm raising money for Sophie and know about the challenge. I keep them updated at various milestones so they know I'm still active in the challenge. Although I do indeed have a photo of Sophie which I've incorporated into the sponsorship form, I don't put it up on the erg. The picture is very clear in my mind so I can draw on this when I'm feeling lethargic (which tends to be when I'm in bed and it's cold and dark outside and the alarm's shouting at me to get down the gym!!). Once i'm sat down on the erg it's all systems go.
).I'm loving the battle with Bernard.
And I think
he's kinda enjoying it too!The DVD I referred to was not the Xeno one but the Oarsome Foursome DVD. You can get some details of its content here. Apparently the DVD will be available in the States before Thanksgiving. You can read about the rowing technique and some info on the DVD itself by clicking here.
The family know I'm raising money for Sophie and know about the challenge. I keep them updated at various milestones so they know I'm still active in the challenge. Although I do indeed have a photo of Sophie which I've incorporated into the sponsorship form, I don't put it up on the erg. The picture is very clear in my mind so I can draw on this when I'm feeling lethargic (which tends to be when I'm in bed and it's cold and dark outside and the alarm's shouting at me to get down the gym!!). Once i'm sat down on the erg it's all systems go.
Great work on the SB Niall. Technique is reallyimportant,
I gather. I think mine's reasonable, but I have a tendency to drop the handle on
the recovery, so it traces a line like the perimeter of an orange segment
through my stroke.
Today I've done a few things.
I did 30 minutes this morning, which was 7682 metres.
This afternoon I did an 8x500m interval set, with 3 minutes complete rest between them. The first 7 intervals were done at 1:42.5 and the last one at 1:40.5. That was another 4000m.
This evening I went to the gym so I could do some weights and try to get a more powerful stroke. While I was there I did an easy 20 minutes (5132m) and then an easy 2k (7:46), both at around 1:58 pace.
Total for today 18814m, which is a bit more like what I was doing before I reached my million and slacked off. =)
Today I've done a few things.
I did 30 minutes this morning, which was 7682 metres.
This afternoon I did an 8x500m interval set, with 3 minutes complete rest between them. The first 7 intervals were done at 1:42.5 and the last one at 1:40.5. That was another 4000m.
This evening I went to the gym so I could do some weights and try to get a more powerful stroke. While I was there I did an easy 20 minutes (5132m) and then an easy 2k (7:46), both at around 1:58 pace.
Total for today 18814m, which is a bit more like what I was doing before I reached my million and slacked off. =)
Sorry Carla, I forgot to answer your question:
| CODE |
| About the chain, do you mean you normally row so that it goes left/right a lot, or up/down? |
I was definitely an up/down man but now reformed and looking to focus on maintaining better form from now on.
Daren,
Great structured workouts mate. Unfortunately my mind's on Bernard right now so I just did 2x10Ks today (and I still find myself behind
).I really do need to start doing some 2K training though (how many times have I said that recently??).
Bernard,
Can you let me know your boss's telephone number as I'd like to propose another business trip for you
. I think
you're going to pull ahead tomorrow as I've only got the one rowing session
(it's my rest day officially!).Erg on guys, everyone's doing a fantastic job with those metres!
| QUOTE (Niall @ Nov 2 2004, 12:26 PM) |
| New SB for 10K is now 39:27.4. Even though a sub-39mins time
would seem to be a long way off, I certainly think I have the confidence
to go for it after I've got over my cold and post-BIRC. Niall |
Great SB Niall, especially considering you are suffering from a severe cold. Just shows what the body is capable of and how much of a mental thing PB's are. Only 10 secs off your PB set when you were super fit and a sub 39 is indeed just around the corner. One nice thing about a 10K row is that a 1 sec reduction in Ave Pace translates into 20 seconds less time to do it ! So you only need to reduce splits by about 1 sec (and still have that 1500m 'rest') and the 39 min barrier is there for the taking.
Hey Carla, your back problem sounds similiar to mine ? A 'degenerated' lower spine (mainly just wear-and-tear') coupled with two recent matching hernia ops in the groin region (lots of mesh in there now) courtesy of 10 years in the vending business means I have to be very careful of aggrievating that region. Getting the flywheel moving is a particularly dodgy time so what I tend to do is take a long slow RELAXED pull to get started (on a lowish DF of 117), then a couple more in the same vein - making sure I don't tense up. Once the wheel is nicely underway it's business as usual. I find any time 'lost' in starting this way is usually made up later on by keeping good form and strong in the middle stages (except for the 500m - too short !!).
Not sure if this helps at all Carla, just thouight I would share my thoughts with you.
Chris/Chippy - not long before the 700m showdown ! Bernie Snr is really piling on the K's too I see - great. Tks for HM 'praise'
Chris - set
my RowPro boat to 1:53 for the first 5K ! (then 1:59's for the next 10K
!!).Cheers all,
Martin
[COLOR=blue][SIZE=7]Great P.B."S By
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I am always impressed with all the times you guys and gals put in.
As for doing the million in a weekend, I think Daren is right about it being to much for a day but a weekend, well
I was thinking and as all who know me understands how dangerous that can be, But, if we were to do it in a few weeks, we could be past Carla's concert, good luck( my son started to play violin this year in school), Godfrieds flu, hope you get better soon. BIRC hope fellow taff's kick ....
Sooo, I was hoping that if we do it the weekend of the 27/28, first off the Americans, Speedy Carla and myself could burn off Thankgiving dinners, all the meters would count towards Holiday Challange, and finally as we have been creeping up on MIT for so long that this push should put us into fourth place
Let me know what you guys think.
Sue and Graham, glad you are home, love the shirts, kit kat bars are tasty. I tried to get you on the phone after I dropped you off, we had a homicide at 0200 hours but the hotel would not put the call through, I was on my way to wake you up but got to involved in homicide. alas next time
Mike
I am always impressed with all the times you guys and gals put in.
As for doing the million in a weekend, I think Daren is right about it being to much for a day but a weekend, well
I was thinking and as all who know me understands how dangerous that can be, But, if we were to do it in a few weeks, we could be past Carla's concert, good luck( my son started to play violin this year in school), Godfrieds flu, hope you get better soon. BIRC hope fellow taff's kick ....
Sooo, I was hoping that if we do it the weekend of the 27/28, first off the Americans, Speedy Carla and myself could burn off Thankgiving dinners, all the meters would count towards Holiday Challange, and finally as we have been creeping up on MIT for so long that this push should put us into fourth place
Let me know what you guys think.
Sue and Graham, glad you are home, love the shirts, kit kat bars are tasty. I tried to get you on the phone after I dropped you off, we had a homicide at 0200 hours but the hotel would not put the call through, I was on my way to wake you up but got to involved in homicide. alas next time
Mike
| QUOTE (Niall @ Nov 2 2004, 04:45 PM) |
| I'm loving the battle with Bernard. And I
think he's kinda enjoying it
too! |
Yes Niall, Carla
I am enjoying the battle(friendly!!) between Niall and myself, it's just my body that's complaining. I had to take a lemsip this morning to deal with a sore throat and runny nose. I cannot afford to take time off with Niall, and now Mike, breathing down my neck.
Anyway, I have to make sure he does this challenge for Sophie and her family. So the pressure is on, matey. Don't even think of slacking now!
I'll try to do 4x1000 and 8x500 today.
Mike, I have the dangerous habit of thinking as well, and just wondered if we should maybe have a half marathon day for the team, maybe two in a week. It gives people enough time to recover, do competition training, sleep, play musid, whatever. This. I believe, would take care of Deren's valid objection.
It's not as if TA members don't do loads of metres in a week anyway.
Just a thought.
Bernard
Hello fellow Taffs. I put on 16000m last night my ass was
killing 1 hour and 9 mins, took it steady kept heart rate below 150bpm for most
of the way.
I'm up for doing a million over a weekend lets have it. Maybe we should all do it in a couple of weeks time after everyone has done the British Champs.
RICKSTER
P.S. Good luck to Graham tonight in his Squash match at Caldicot.
I'm up for doing a million over a weekend lets have it. Maybe we should all do it in a couple of weeks time after everyone has done the British Champs.
RICKSTER
P.S. Good luck to Graham tonight in his Squash match at Caldicot.
Two weeks ago I took my 2K time from 7:11.9 (1:48.0) to
7:04.6 (1:46.1). Today I shaved a bit more off it.
The aim was to try setting out a race plan for BIRC. Play for today was to do 1500m at 1:46 and then let loose the dogs in the last 500m, hoping I could nail 1:43.
The game didn't pan out as intended. I wasn't really very good at judging the 1:46 pace, so the first 1k was done more like 1:45. At about 1000m I started to pay for it, but hung on grimly for another 300m. At around 1300m I really started feeling it, and my pace slowed significantly to 1:47.5 and then 1:49. After that slight breather I could see the end in sight with just another 400m to go. I fought for 100m at 1:47 and then poured everything out; 1:46 for 300-200, 1:44.5 for 200-100 and then 1:42 for the final 100m.
End result, a new PB of 7:02.8 (1:45.7). Still a bit to do if I'm going to breach 7 minutes in 2 weeks' time. I take some solace from the fact that I overdid my own game plan at the start, and also that I'm not fully rested. I'm going to try the same race plan again at the weekend I think, and hopefully stick to the 1:46's I wanted to get. If I can do that and still do the final 300m like I did today, it's going to be very close.
The aim was to try setting out a race plan for BIRC. Play for today was to do 1500m at 1:46 and then let loose the dogs in the last 500m, hoping I could nail 1:43.
The game didn't pan out as intended. I wasn't really very good at judging the 1:46 pace, so the first 1k was done more like 1:45. At about 1000m I started to pay for it, but hung on grimly for another 300m. At around 1300m I really started feeling it, and my pace slowed significantly to 1:47.5 and then 1:49. After that slight breather I could see the end in sight with just another 400m to go. I fought for 100m at 1:47 and then poured everything out; 1:46 for 300-200, 1:44.5 for 200-100 and then 1:42 for the final 100m.
End result, a new PB of 7:02.8 (1:45.7). Still a bit to do if I'm going to breach 7 minutes in 2 weeks' time. I take some solace from the fact that I overdid my own game plan at the start, and also that I'm not fully rested. I'm going to try the same race plan again at the weekend I think, and hopefully stick to the 1:46's I wanted to get. If I can do that and still do the final 300m like I did today, it's going to be very close.
| CODE |
Oct 14 Oct 21 Nov 03 Sp Pace SR HR Sp Pace SR HR Sp Pace SR HR -------------- -------------- -------------- 100 1:51.00 30 129 1:45.50 31 139 1:45.50 31 148 200 1:49.00 30 142 1:43.50 29 152 1:45.00 34 159 300 1:49.50 27 148 1:43.50 32 159 1:45.00 32 164 400 1:50.00 25 152 1:44.00 29 163 1:46.00 34 165 500 1:49.50 27 157 1:44.50 34 165 1:45.00 34 167 600 1:49.00 27 161 1:45.50 31 166 1:44.50 34 168 700 1:49.00 28 163 1:47.50 31 166 1:45.50 34 170 800 1:49.00 28 164 1:47.00 34 168 1:45.00 34 171 900 1:50.00 27 166 1:48.00 31 169 1:46.00 37 172 1000 1:50.00 27 167 1:48.00 33 170 1:46.50 34 173 1100 1:49.50 25 169 1:47.00 34 171 1:46.00 34 174 1200 1:49.00 28 170 1:47.00 31 172 1:46.00 34 175 1300 1:49.00 30 170 1:47.00 34 173 1:45.00 37 174 1400 1:49.50 27 171 1:47.50 34 173 1:47.50 34 174 1500 1:47.50 28 172 1:47.00 34 174 1:47.50 36 177 1600 1:45.50 31 173 1:46.50 34 175 1:49.00 36 175 1700 1:44.50 35 174 1:47.00 34 176 1:47.00 36 177 1800 1:43.00 32 174 1:46.00 34 177 1:46.00 34 178 1900 1:43.50 35 175 1:46.00 34 177 1:44.50 34 179 2000 1:43.00 38 176 1:44.00 35 178 1:42.00 38 180 Avg 1:48.0 1:46.1 1:45.7 Time 7:11.9 7:04.6 7:02.8 |
Stroke rate significantly higher, pulse also.
| QUOTE (Daren C @ Nov 3 2004, 09:08 AM) |
| End result, a new PB of 7:02.8
(1:45.7). Still a bit to do if I'm going to breach 7 minutes in 2 weeks'
time. I take some solace from the fact that I overdid my own game plan at
the start, and also that I'm not fully rested. I'm going to try the same
race plan again at the weekend I think, and hopefully stick to the 1:46's
I wanted to get. If I can do that and still do the final 300m like I did
today, it's going to be very close. Stroke rate significantly higher, pulse also. |
Daren,
Great job man!!
If I were you, I wouldn't worry to much about the 7 minute barrier. The main reason being that you said you weren't fully rested. That right there can account for up to a second. The second thing is that you were doing this at your leisure, on your own. Wait until you get into a race setting. You'll try and stick with your game plan, but you won't.
Most people end up going just a wee bit faster. Why? The crowds, the venue setting, etc. The year I was there, a chap set a new pb by more than 12 seconds!!!!
My prediction for you (baring anything catastrophic) will be a sub 7 time. Give 'em 'ell mate!!
Speedy
| QUOTE (Daren C @ Nov 3 2004, 09:08 AM) |
| Still a bit to do if I'm going to breach 7 minutes in 2 weeks' time. |
The job is as good as done Daren!
Bernard
Daren,
Great work on the 2K time mate! You must surely know in your heart that a sub-7 minute time is within reach.
I did a 10K piece this afternoon and went for a 6K PB during it. I went out at 1:54 and then settled into a 1:58 average pace. After completing the 10K (in a very uninspiring time), I noted my splits and then did the calculations for the 6K distance. I already knew it was a new PB as I'd had the display on Average Pace and had noted it was showing 1:58.0. Once the calculations were done, I was pleased to see a new PB of (cue large red numbers) 23:35.5 from a previous PB of 23:44.
I know I can improve on this time as my 6K times have always been part of a 10K row so I've never done just the 6K. Some day I'll have to make the effort and do it (either once Bernard's too far ahead of me to catch or I'm comfortably in front of him
).
(Still haven't done any 2K training pieces )
Great work on the 2K time mate! You must surely know in your heart that a sub-7 minute time is within reach.
I did a 10K piece this afternoon and went for a 6K PB during it. I went out at 1:54 and then settled into a 1:58 average pace. After completing the 10K (in a very uninspiring time), I noted my splits and then did the calculations for the 6K distance. I already knew it was a new PB as I'd had the display on Average Pace and had noted it was showing 1:58.0. Once the calculations were done, I was pleased to see a new PB of (cue large red numbers) 23:35.5 from a previous PB of 23:44.
I know I can improve on this time as my 6K times have always been part of a 10K row so I've never done just the 6K. Some day I'll have to make the effort and do it (either once Bernard's too far ahead of me to catch or I'm comfortably in front of him
).(Still haven't done any 2K training pieces
)
Hi Everyone
Graham has been doing some SNEAKY rowing while I'v been away with working, however I will not let him lead for much longer
Remember Pain is Temporary Pride is Forever
Mike
Gutted about not able to be with you for the homicide, hope your guys got some overtime out of it!!
It' a tactic I have giving away all my chocolate samples away, so you all have to row harder to burn the calories away!
Watch this space Graham - Lots of Meters coming my way...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Graham has been doing some SNEAKY rowing while I'v been away with working, however I will not let him lead for much longer
Remember Pain is Temporary Pride is Forever
Mike
Gutted about not able to be with you for the homicide, hope your guys got some overtime out of it!!
It' a tactic I have giving away all my chocolate samples away, so you all have to row harder to burn the calories away!
Watch this space Graham - Lots of Meters coming my way...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
| QUOTE (rickster @ Oct 31 2004, 04:02 PM) |
| P.S. Graham, Sue, Chippy, Chris, hopefully
see you all for my big match in Cardiff on Thursday night.
Rickster |
Good luck for the big match Ricky - hope that 16K row doesn't play havoc with the 'glutes' !
Nice PB's Daren, Niall. Like Daren's chances of breaking 7 at BIRC - looks as good a bet as Phar Lap in his heyday - bookies refusing to take bets
Why don't we do a marathon on the appointed Taff Million weekend ? Good incentive to get it done for Nonathlon/personal achievement etc !
Martin
Hats off to Ray who's clearly been spending every spare
moment on the erg. I'm sure it was only a few days ago I saw his total metres on
2000 and I've just had a look now and it's jumped to 5,500! 
Great effort and focus Ray, way to go and keep it up mate, every metre counts!
Martin,
I'm really not sure about the marathon piece. Personally I'd rather do two or maybe even three pieces in a day that amount to the marathon distance but I know my body or the time commitment (in one stretch) wouldn't be able to do the marathon. Sorry to put a downer on it as I'm normally Mr Positive but my own personal circumstances and ability would prefer an overall distance target (30-40K) which I could do in multiple sessions if necessary.
Graham,
How did the squash go??
Great effort and focus Ray, way to go and keep it up mate, every metre counts!
Martin,
I'm really not sure about the marathon piece. Personally I'd rather do two or maybe even three pieces in a day that amount to the marathon distance but I know my body or the time commitment (in one stretch) wouldn't be able to do the marathon. Sorry to put a downer on it as I'm normally Mr Positive but my own personal circumstances and ability would prefer an overall distance target (30-40K) which I could do in multiple sessions if necessary.
Graham,
How did the squash go??
Hi
I did my routine, setting a new 1k pb on the last repeat and 500 metre best.
The 1k - 3'31 and the 500 m was 1'34.4. So that's another 11.5k - what with the warm-up, cool down and interval paddles.
My nose is now streaming with cold and my head hurts. The hot flushes have started and so I'm going to just sit here at work and drink my lemsip and feel sorry for myself. I may even do some work.
No erging for the next couple of days, so go on, Niall, take advantage of a sick man.
Martin, I have to side with Niall and say that I couldn't row a marathon in one sitting. A half-marathon, yes, maybe followed by one the following day, but I really couldn't eat a whole one.
I did my routine, setting a new 1k pb on the last repeat and 500 metre best.
The 1k - 3'31 and the 500 m was 1'34.4. So that's another 11.5k - what with the warm-up, cool down and interval paddles.
My nose is now streaming with cold and my head hurts. The hot flushes have started and so I'm going to just sit here at work and drink my lemsip and feel sorry for myself. I may even do some work.
No erging for the next couple of days, so go on, Niall, take advantage of a sick man.
Martin, I have to side with Niall and say that I couldn't row a marathon in one sitting. A half-marathon, yes, maybe followed by one the following day, but I really couldn't eat a whole one.
Hey, congratulations on the 1k and 500m PBs,
especially a) at the end of a session and with a head
full of cold. Great stuff. =)
with a head
full of cold. Great stuff. =) | QUOTE |
| No erging for the next couple of days, so go on, Niall, take advantage of a sick man. |
I'm certainly not the type to take advantage of a sick man like yourself (that's a reference to your illness and not your persistant ability to put in loads of metres day-in day-out!).
I'm going to use this opportunity to finally get round to some 2K training during my afternoon rowing sessions.
I'm looking forward to resuming the battle with you once you've shrugged off your man-flu.
Great job on the PBs too Bernard, especially in your current condition. Who knows how much of an improvement you could get once you're fighting fit!
| QUOTE (Niall @ Nov 4 2004, 07:23 AM) |
| I'm certainly not the type to take
advantage of a sick man like yourself (that's a reference to your illness
and not your persistant ability to put in loads of metres day-in
day-out!). |
I'm not the only one with that persistent ability to row loads of metres every day"! You don't do so badly yourself!
At least constructive, positive things come out of my illness.
| QUOTE |
I'm going to use this opportunity to finally get round to some 2K training during my afternoon rowing sessions. |
Good luck with the 2K training. I'm going home, I feel dreadful. Might do a quick 5k before I go - just joking. I couldn't pull a face let alone an ergo.
Ray, your a superstar. Keep it going mate.
Happy erging
Bernard(and his lemsip)
| QUOTE (Prufrock @ Nov 4 2004, 04:08 AM) |
| I did my routine, setting a new 1k pb on
the last repeat and 500 metre best. |
Way to go Bernard. And you did both of these while being sick. Impressive.
Speedy
Hey Dwayne
I won't train like that again while I'm ill, I feel really bad. Hopefully, I'll be rid of those horrible little germs after a good night's sleep, so I can resume preparation for BIRC and resume my titanic struggle with Niall. I wonder if we can pass a million before the end of the year?
Did you get the email I sent you about your training programme? I sent it a couple of days ago.
Bernard
I won't train like that again while I'm ill, I feel really bad. Hopefully, I'll be rid of those horrible little germs after a good night's sleep, so I can resume preparation for BIRC and resume my titanic struggle with Niall. I wonder if we can pass a million before the end of the year?
Did you get the email I sent you about your training programme? I sent it a couple of days ago.
Bernard
| QUOTE (Prufrock @ Nov 4 2004, 09:03 AM) |
| Did you get the email I sent you about your
training programme? I sent it a couple of days ago. Bernard |
Bernard,
No I didn't. Sorry about that.
email at dwayne.adams@microchip.com and let me know what you're looking for.
Again sorry for the confusion.
Dwayne
| QUOTE |
| I wonder if we can pass a million before the end of the year? |
ABSOLUTELY!!!!! Nuff said!
Bore Da!, I see you lurking. Did you get my email last
night? I sent it via the forum.
30 minutes this morning. 7738m, avg pace 1:56.3, 28-33
SPM, 6.6-8.6 SPI, 130-176 BPM
5k this evening, 18:42.2, avg pace 1:52.2, 28-33 SPM, 7.2-9.3 SPM, 150-187 BPM.
The 5k actually shaved 2.6 seconds off my previous PB of 18:44.8, so I'm quite pleased with that coming on the top of the 30 minutes earlier. Got me 2 more nonathlon points, too. =) Oddly, although my heart rate was into the 180+ range for quite some time, I didn't feel this was as taxing as the 2K, so maybe I do feel the muscular fatique more than I realise (I've always put it down to breathing and CV fatigue more before).
5k this evening, 18:42.2, avg pace 1:52.2, 28-33 SPM, 7.2-9.3 SPM, 150-187 BPM.
The 5k actually shaved 2.6 seconds off my previous PB of 18:44.8, so I'm quite pleased with that coming on the top of the 30 minutes earlier. Got me 2 more nonathlon points, too. =) Oddly, although my heart rate was into the 180+ range for quite some time, I didn't feel this was as taxing as the 2K, so maybe I do feel the muscular fatique more than I realise (I've always put it down to breathing and CV fatigue more before).
| QUOTE (AussieTaff @ Oct 29 2004, 07:31 PM) |
| Good luck in the HM James - having recently
done one after a loooooong layoff (20 years !) I know how that distance
can bite you. Going for any particular time ? I was aiming for a sub 2
hrs, did 2:01 (now THAT was gutting Chris !!!)
|
[QUOTE]
Thanks! I wasn't going for a particular time as I had no idea what I'd be able to do as all my training was done on a cross trainer. Went ok, although my legs only stoped aching enough to do some rowing today! I did 1:41.50 in the end. My Will have to try rowing one next. Eek!
I'd be up for trying for 1,000,000 in a weekend or something. How much would we each have to row?
| QUOTE (JSamuel @ Nov 4 2004, 08:25 PM) |
| I'd be up for trying for 1,000,000 in a weekend or something. How much would we each have to row? |
Well, Taff Attack has 25 members. So, in theory, 40km each would do it. Of course, not everyone can manage that in a day. Over a weekend we might be able to get closer. For example, I could do at least 30km each on two days, making 60km for the weekend.
Depends how many take part and how fit we all are. =)
Well done on the half marathon. I still can't run at all. Makes me knackered after about 2 minutes. =)
Hello Taffians,Sue and i just back from Cardiff watching Rickster
squashing.Match lasted 1hr. his max h.r. was 193 average over the hour 183 Both he and i lost,but R had a match last night same quality, lasted 1hr 17 mins,his fitness is awesome.
So it's back to the erg,well done to all you guys doing p.b's!!!
Sue and i off to Stadium on Sat,watch Cymru beat the Boks!!!!!
Nos da
Are we all ready for our million meter attempt this
weekend Taffs?!?!?
Let's see what we can do eh?
Speedy
Let's see what we can do eh?
Speedy
We are getting closer to MIT all the time. I'm recovered
from my cold, well enough to do another 30k over the weekend for the
cause.
Have a good weekend
Bernard
Have a good weekend
Bernard
Roger! Will try to fit in as many metres as I can this
weekend. Mostly depends on what the rest of the family are up to.
Trained with Chippy tonight for some reason his decided
he was up for doing a load of Sprints 150m 10x 1.30 min rest. The mad foul then
decides he wanted to blast the final interval rowing at 1.21 pace. He
looked across at me with an angry face and teeth showing. He was like a mad
bull!!!!
A big thanks to Chippy, Graham, Sue, Richard for supporting me last night in my match. I'm feeling a little tiered today as you can imagine.
Well done everyone on your PB's that great news keep it up. Unfortunitly I won't be doing much rowing this weekend as I'm celebrating my birthday (23rd) won't be in any fit state for exercising.
Take care everyone keep fit!!!!
RICKSTER
A big thanks to Chippy, Graham, Sue, Richard for supporting me last night in my match. I'm feeling a little tiered today as you can imagine.
Well done everyone on your PB's that great news keep it up. Unfortunitly I won't be doing much rowing this weekend as I'm celebrating my birthday (23rd) won't be in any fit state for exercising.
Take care everyone keep fit!!!!
RICKSTER